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Offline barnett468

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1375 on: April 27, 2016, 03:42:44 pm »
Barn broke it..  :toetapping:  :lol:

From the book of barnett psalm 12:1 verse 3

"The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away."  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1376 on: April 27, 2016, 03:49:15 pm »
i never touched it.  :santa:

Are you done "screwing" your carbs up yet?


I'll get to it when i can..

Doing my head in to the point i just want to wheel the fkn thing into the back shed and leav it there.





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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1377 on: April 27, 2016, 04:00:55 pm »
Fritzy mate it might pay you to do that . Disconnect the battery close the hood ,close the garage door and walk away from it till next week . Sometimes you have to walk away and live life without thinking of a bloody car for a while .  :thumb:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1378 on: April 27, 2016, 04:01:11 pm »
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You also need a hotter plug.

Hey GLENN, can he run a BKR4E?




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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1379 on: April 27, 2016, 04:01:44 pm »
O bloody page 56  :thud:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1380 on: April 27, 2016, 04:03:03 pm »
Fritzy mate it might pay you to do that . Disconnect the battery close the hood ,close the garage door and walk away from it till next week . Sometimes you have to walk away and live life without thinking of a bloody car for a while .  :thumb:

He needs to throw those webers in the trash can.  :thumb:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1381 on: April 27, 2016, 04:04:15 pm »
Yes he could run a 4 heat range till he gets the bloody thing going .  Gee maybe a 1 would be better but NGK  would have to make it just for him  :lmao: .

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1382 on: April 27, 2016, 04:06:11 pm »
Yes just a victor intake and a 750 DP would work nice . And a 850 DP maybe for race day .

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1383 on: April 27, 2016, 04:06:15 pm »
He needs to throw those webers in the trash can.  :thumb:

But they look so pretty...  :drool:  :lol:






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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1384 on: April 27, 2016, 04:08:39 pm »
If he was close to me I would lend him a air gap and a 750 DP just to get the thing on the road ,drive it for a while then consider refitting the webers .

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1385 on: April 27, 2016, 04:13:39 pm »
But they look so pretty...  :drool:  :lol:

Well you have all the time in the world to sit in your beach chair and admire them now since it don't run.  :thumb:

Did I ever tell you that webers are crap on a street car?

Buy some BKR4E spark plugs . Your engine runs is so fkng cold and that cam is so big and the carbs are so rich that they will keep turning black and misfiring.

Buy high flow 180 thermostat because yours is broken.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1386 on: April 27, 2016, 04:35:37 pm »
Well you have all the time in the world to sit in your beach chair and admire them now since it don't run.  :thumb:

Did I ever tell you that webers are crap on a street car?

Buy some BKR4E spark plugs . Your engine runs is so fkng cold and that cam is so big and the carbs are so rich that they will keep turning black and misfiring.

Buy high flow 180 thermostat because yours is broken.

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Plugs are so fouled already after i cleaned them yesterday and its only been run a couple of times for a few mins..  :thud:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1387 on: April 27, 2016, 04:48:05 pm »
Plugs are so fouled already after i cleaned them yesterday and its only been run a couple of times for a few mins..  :thud:

 :lmao:

....but the webers look so nice!  :thumb:

are you positive it only has 3 psi of fuel pressure?





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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1388 on: April 27, 2016, 04:53:08 pm »
I have some stuff coming up for the next week or so, so if i'm not around when you see where your screws are at, one of these other Lawn Bowlers can give you a hand.

don't forget, dont ever, touch the idle speed screw.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1389 on: April 27, 2016, 05:14:43 pm »
2.5 psi . And yes Shaun has taken up lawn Bowles now  :grin:  was years away when this thread started  but time flies when your having fun  :lmao:  :sick: .  Webers hate high fuel pressure and 2.5 to 3 psi would be max as far as I know or remember .

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1390 on: April 27, 2016, 05:21:47 pm »
2.5 psi . And yes Shaun has taken up lawn Bowles now  :grin:  was years away when this thread started  but time flies when your having fun  :lmao:  :sick: .  Webers hate high fuel pressure and 2.5 to 3 psi would be max as far as I know or remember .


I'd have to look at the videos but i think its sitting a shade over 3 psi

That's # 1 after no more than 10 mins run time after i completely cleaned them. Actually it wouldn't even be 10 mins..

Surely that's not right..  :shrug:


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1391 on: April 27, 2016, 05:25:56 pm »
Not good .  Sorry but I don't know how to set up weber carbies . But I do know no high fuel pressures . A 4 heat range  plug won't fix the problem .
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1392 on: April 27, 2016, 05:30:02 pm »

I'd have to look at the videos but i think its sitting a shade over 3 psi

turn it down to exactly 2.8 if you ever get it running again.


That's # 1 after no more than 10 mins run time after i completely cleaned them. Actually it wouldn't even be 10 mins. Surely that's not right..  :shrug:

well that depends on whether you have webers or not.  :lmao:



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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1393 on: April 27, 2016, 05:32:19 pm »
that plug is too cold for your setup.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1394 on: April 27, 2016, 05:39:13 pm »
He is running a 5 plug ? .   Its too rich on idle and or fuel pressure is too high . It needs a 4 heat range plug to try and get this thing going .  The way it is at the moment just fitting a hotter plug won't fix the problem . I really don't know so I am going to shut up  :smile01: .

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1395 on: April 27, 2016, 05:42:51 pm »
He is running a 5 plug ? .   Its too rich on idle and or fuel pressure is too high . It needs a 4 heat range plug to try and get this thing going .  The way it is at the moment just fitting a hotter plug won't fix the problem . I really don't know so I am going to shut up  :smile01: .

correct, a hotter plug will not totally cure the prob but it will reduce the carbon and may reduce it long enough to get the pos tuned . right now its impossible to tune because the plugs load up then misfire right away.

after seeing that plug, i can't believe it ran for 5 minutes the other day.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1396 on: April 27, 2016, 05:44:36 pm »
He is running a 5 plug ? .   Its too rich on idle and or fuel pressure is too high . It needs a 4 heat range plug to try and get this thing going .  The way it is at the moment just fitting a hotter plug won't fix the problem . I really don't know so I am going to shut up  :smile01: .

It's always run really rich on idle they tuned it that way, never really got a reason for it..

I was told by a tech at Weber that some of my other issues when it was missing at high rpm etc could be that it was probably running rich at idle and too lean under throttle, who knows..  :shrug:

Anyway, lets not complicate things than they already are.. if that's possible  :thud: :lol:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1397 on: April 27, 2016, 05:46:31 pm »
correct, a hotter plug will not totally cure the prob but it will reduce the carbon and may reduce it long enough to get the pos tuned . right now its impossible to tune because the plugs load up then misfire right away.

after seeing that plug, i can't believe it ran for 5 minutes the other day.

So it's way too rich at idle and fouling the plugs..


Obviously way out of my league but could they have also done all kinds of weird and wonderful things with the jetting etc too ?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1398 on: April 27, 2016, 05:50:37 pm »
Gee a used alloy 4 B intake and a used 750 vac sec holley for around $400 and you would be cruising this weekend after bringing the fuel pressure up to 6 psi . O yes a new set of plugs  :lmao: .

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1399 on: April 27, 2016, 05:52:42 pm »
I really think it was set up for track work not street driving or idling under 2000 rpm .