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2015 Mustang Chat
« on: May 02, 2015, 05:46:49 pm »
Hi Members

With the new 2015 Mustang soon landing in Oz, Id like to start up a General Chat Thread to discuss all things 2015 Mustang.

Look forward to reading up on the latest news, modifications, or just thoughts on your own experiences.

Thanks for sharing

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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2015, 10:24:28 am »
 

Will this be a feature on Australian delivered V6 Ecoboost's?.


"2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost Fakes Its Engine Noise"

 
"As fuel economy and emissions requirements get stricter, automakers increasingly turn to engine downsizing and turbocharging. There's just one problem: many turbo engines don't sound that great. This means some car companies choose to fake the engine noise, and it looks like the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost is the latest victim of this chicanery.

That's right: the Mustang, the original pony car, an American performance icon, has resorted to pumping augmented engine noise in through the speakers, much like modern turbocharged BMWs do. This makes me kind of sad.

This revelation was made by Road & Track's Jason Cammisa during his recent drive of the car, in which he pulled a fuse on the 2.3-liter turbocharged Mustang that caused both the stereo and the engine to go quiet.


So the folks at Autoblog today asked Ford what the deal was, and here's what they uncovered:


Autoblog spoke with Ford engineer Shawn Carney who confirmed that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with this system, called Active Noise Control.

In fact, Carney is partially responsible for tuning and shaping the EcoBoost's note in the Mustang, and he said the setup serves two distinct functions. First, it cancels out some of the coarse noise as part of the 'Stang's refinement strategy.

It also allows Ford to enhance things by "layering in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," he said. To determine the right mix, the engine processor monitors torque output and changes things accordingly. "The intent is to be a natural experience," said Carney.

Active Noise Control, they call it. Granted, it's not like the car is pumping in an entirely fabricated sound, but at the same time it's inauthentic, isn't it? Can you enjoy the engine sound if you know it's not real, and being piped in through the stereo?

The UK's CAR magazine had a mention of this in an interview with Mustang Chief Engineer Dave Perciak last year. I guess this didn't get much attention at the time. Here's the section in question:


With the Ecoboost engine we have both active noise cancellation, and we also amplify the existing engine sound order. We don't create an artificial sound, we don't pluck one off the shelf, we bring in the real sound, process it, and play it through the car's speakers. Today's V6 sounds fantastic, and although the Ecoboost won't sound like a V8, it won't sound like it doesn't belong in a Mustang either.

Ford isn't the only manufacturer to do this, and it isn't done entirely because most turbo engines sound like crap — it's also to keep down noise, vibration and harshness. Today's cars are loaded down with insulation for a reason.

Previous Mustangs have had some sound augmentation as well, but that was done through a resonator pipe between the engine and firewall designed to let in more noise. BMWs go even further than this, playing a recording of an engine sound over the speakers.

The last time I drove a BMW M235i, I loved the way it sounded, but I couldn't allow myself to enjoy it because deep down I knew it wasn't real. Maybe that doesn't matter to everyone, but it matters to me. Noise is an important part of a driving experience, and a car that doesn't sound great isn't worth owning.

It doesn't seem like Active Noise Control is equipped on V6 and V8 cars, which is good. But Autoblog closes with one more disappointing tidbit: this system is integrated into the Mustang EcoBoost's head unit, so upgrading your stereo means no more engine sound."

Bummer.



   What's the bet the aftermarket Geeks have chips for the head unit already being developed to make this noise control sound like a F18 Jet Fighter or a V12 Merlin, perhaps an open exhaust 427 Side Oiler.

   
        But then Ricers have been doing it for years, changing their exhaust note  with their Fart Tips.

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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2015, 10:56:15 am »
We are not getting the 6 cyl version here but I think this relates to the 4 cyl ecoboost
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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2015, 11:21:58 am »
I have heard the Eco boost has a sports exhaust note that is played through the internal stereo system, much like some of the European cars now have, it's pretty subtle, but provides the sports feeling, so I was told. Not sure how true it is, maybe others with euro cars can help explain how it works.

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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2015, 08:09:57 pm »
Article comparing price in Aus with price in USA and 2001 mustang...

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/2015-ford-mustang-to-cost-45000-in-australia-31214#.VUXy5toayK0

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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2015, 09:03:37 pm »
Interesting article. The Australian delivered Mustangs will be fully optioned whereas the US versions have a base price and then additional costs for options so not sure if they took that into account. Their options also include different interior finishes and wheels that we will not have as options.

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2015, 09:15:03 pm »
I am wondering whether the price difference is basically the cost of importing and dealer delivery charges which can vary as previously noted ...

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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2015, 10:58:45 pm »
That would have a lot to do with it

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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2015, 11:30:10 am »
I am wondering whether the price difference is basically the cost of importing and dealer delivery charges which can vary as previously noted ...

Don't forget theres a difference in exchanges rates between US & OZ dollars as well when comparing prices.



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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2015, 08:59:58 pm »
Indeed

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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2015, 06:59:18 am »
Evidently there was an article in Saturdays paper re delivery delay to Australia. I missed it, can anyone elaborate. Estimated delivery on my contract with city Ford states 20th January 2016.
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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2015, 01:30:21 pm »
I checked the cars guide in the Saturday paper and couldn't find anything.

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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2015, 09:13:58 pm »
Seems like a long wait. I think the $1000 deposit is a bit steep shouldn't be any more then $500 been we have to wait over a year to receive our car.
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2015, 09:16:09 pm »
I agree

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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2015, 09:16:42 am »
My deposit @ City Ford Rockdale was $2000...
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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2015, 09:49:46 am »
Wow!!! they hit you hard  :smash:. At the end of the day it all comes off the bottom line I guess.... I was looking at my contract last night it has no delivery dates on it what so ever.
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2015, 10:36:47 am »
Wow!!! they hit you hard  :smash:. At the end of the day it all comes off the bottom line I guess.... I was looking at my contract last night it has no delivery dates on it what so ever.

Harder on the dealer delivery charge also  :sick:
Notice the model indicates 2016, what do other member contracts indicate?
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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2015, 02:30:25 pm »
My deposit was 10%. Paying over 6k upfront makes the hit at the end of the year a little less painful. Still dealing with the $3995 dealer delivery charge, which is extortionate.
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2015, 05:45:17 pm »
Gt dally I don't even have build dates on my seems to be a open book to when I will get it........
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2015, 07:52:00 pm »
Mine is a bit hard to read but appears to have 2015 as the build date

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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2015, 09:16:28 pm »
Hi hear some pics from top of Empire State Building I took last year with the new 2015 mustang launch  :event:. Enjoy and some in basement in pieces ..
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2015, 09:18:55 pm »
No year noted on my order but the expected delivery date is noted as 15 Dec 15. That was back in mid March.
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Re: 2015 Mustang Chat
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2015, 11:30:59 am »
My paperwork lists 2016 model, with a delivery date late Dec.

I asked about this, and they actually dont have precise dates, they would know closer to the dates of first delivery, plus they get a bunch in, and depending on where your contract sits with the others. You will be notified closer to the time.

I ordered late March, and even though the contract says Dec, the sales person advised most likely Jan/Feb

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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2015, 02:47:02 pm »
I heard but can't confirm that the first batch of cars to be sent across was 1500 and all these had been allocated prior to the end of March closing date.
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