Author Topic: engine number (Read 11466 times)

Blown66Mustang · « **on:** January 24, 2010, 06:28:40 pm »

On Friday just gone, I took my 66 Coupe to a "reputable" approved safety inspection station in Cairns for a safety certificate (roadworthy) for rego. I will not mention the name of the business but the clown failed me due to the clear rear indicator lenses as he said they needed to be amber. I advised him that they had amber globes which had been approved by engineer during LO2 blue plate approval. He also argued that I needed the "ADR approval" before he could complete the safety certificate and I tried to explain that the engineer's blue plate in the engine bay was for LO2 for seatbelts, lights etc was the ADR approval but he said he checked with Qld transport and he wasn't listening to me at all so needless to say i wasted $62 on the safety inspection plus tow truck fees to and from home. So basically this guy was saying that the Engineer who approved my LO2 blue plate does not know his rules and regulations, so frustrating. Does anyone know of a someone reliable and knowledgable enough in Cairns to complete a safety certificate on a 66 Coupe???

Thanks
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BLKPNY · « **Reply #1 on:** January 24, 2010, 06:49:01 pm »

That suck big time...

We have a new product, due really soon.
The kit is a correct socket for the reverse housing, with White LED back up lamps, and amber indicators, on a circuit board, plus LED taillight kit.

Would that help?

Blown66Mustang · « **Reply #2 on:** January 24, 2010, 07:09:20 pm »

Thanks Steph but I will locate a roadworthy mechanic who knows their job before I fork out another $62. Im going to let my engineer know that this guy failed me because of his LO2 approved rear indicators and let them sort it out.

BLKPNY · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2010, 07:13:18 pm »

I hate it when people get their education, on your dime.

Good luck getting a result!

FST68 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2010, 08:00:20 pm »

Call me ignorant but I was under the impression that a compliace engineer was also able to do safety certificates. if he him self doesn't do them for some strange reason get him to recomend you to someone.

Cheers

roro · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2010, 08:23:02 pm »

why not name him?
If he was wrong then you have every right to slag him off so others dont go down the same road.....?

djc · « **Reply #6 on:** January 24, 2010, 10:45:21 pm »

Im pretty sure bud that you are covered to and from the point of inspection without having to trailer the vehicle.

All states that I am aware of would cover you to the inspection and from the inspection provided that you can prove that you have an appointment and taking the shortest practicable route.

I know this is definitely the case in Tasmanian and NSW from memory and I would be surprised if all other states are not the same.

Might save you a few $$$ next trip.

non member · « **Reply #7 on:** January 25, 2010, 05:15:34 pm »

I have clear rear backup lenses (only colour available at the time, maybe stil) & I use them for flashers. They have orange bulbs.

Car was passed by an engineer back in 92 & again in 07 when the car came home. It is NSW but that was an ADR that he had to comply with.

moe · « **Reply #8 on:** January 25, 2010, 08:23:45 pm »

Orange backup lenses are available.

I fitted a pair to my coupe late last year. bought them off capital classics.

junior · « **Reply #9 on:** January 26, 2010, 04:21:29 am »

that sucks mate, i didnt even have separate indicators (just flashing tailights) and they didnt kick up a stink. Best of luck !

nifty-b · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2010, 10:31:47 pm »

Yeah it seems that these guys @ the Inspection Stations all seem to interperate the rules & regs in different ways, no matter what state you live in.
Good luck mate, the problem is now that if Qld Transport is like the Nsw RTA, your car will now be in the Qld T/sport systen as being knocked back , so going to another guy may not work , basicaly the T/sport departments have us by the short & curleys , so you may just have to fix the problem mate , & like mo said, Orange or Amber lenses are available ,so throw some amber lenses in & get it passed, if you dont like them change them back after.. if you can't get the lenses you can buy amber glass die in a spray pack from most auto parts shops..

Blown66Mustang · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2010, 08:46:44 pm »

The L02 compliance for ADR from the Engineer cost me $1500 so I will let him sort it out with the roadworthy guys. I also forgot to mention that he also failed me as the engine had no engine number and I tried to explain to him that Ford in the US did not start stamping blocks with engine numbers until 1968/69 so mine being a 66 does not have one. He reckons I need to take my car to Qld Transport for them to confirm that it does not have an engine number and then they will send a report to the Qld police to check/confirm that car is all "above board" I don't think he has game to use the word "stolen as Iwas pretty angry by this stage! As the car is deemed not to be roadworthy, I have to spend more $$ on tow truck to take car to Qld Transport, will this merry-go-round ever stop???? Hopefully common sense will prevail and they will simply issue me with a surrogate engine number which is usually the last 6 digits of the VIN
:(

jmd1 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2010, 09:54:38 pm »

Hopefully common sense will prevail

Remember that this is Qld Transport you are talking about, common sense doesn't come in to it.
They are a pack of F,,,,wits.
The right hand does not know how to scratch the left nut....
Good luck.

Me_3 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2010, 10:03:08 pm »

Flameman1: Head over to http://www.nqpfc.com into the forum and ask there about somebody reasonable to handle the roadworthy..

There are a lot of company's in cairns who are out to rip you off unfortunately.. (One company tried to get a friend to replace his steering rack as it was 'leaking'.. turned out a perished return hose was clearly visible when viewed from underneath.. As it was, they just happened to have a rack handy for only $300 fitted... )

Otherwise, Havago on these forums might know somebody (he is also on nqpfc)

The more I read about getting these cars registered, the more i'm not looking forward to that stage with mine..

Qldmustang · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2010, 10:55:03 pm »

Hi Flameman1,
OK here goes, I am in Cairns (not many of us) so I can tell you some people to go see. If you go to English Street pop in and speak to Danny at Danny West Auto's. He has been my car guy for a while now and great with classics. I have sold mine now (still shedding a tear) but he did nearly all work that I could not. He is also the kind of guy you can talk to and ask qusetions and he will talk yours ears off with advise and recomendations. He can also do you Safety Cert if you want. Really nice guy as well.
The other one you can talk to is Tom at Autobarn. He is in the back section with the preformance parts. He is the certified L02 guy up here so also a good person to talk to if you have qusetions as he also knows a lot of people.
The last is the guys at Cairns of Cairns. The do resto work on classic cars. Not sure if they do Safety Certs or L02 but can also help if you get suck.
Hope this helps and you are on the road soon.

Cheers

Lachy

Brent · « **Reply #15 on:** January 31, 2010, 10:25:29 am »

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Originally posted by djc
Im pretty sure bud that you are covered to and from the point of inspection without having to trailer the vehicle.

All states that I am aware of would cover you to the inspection and from the inspection provided that you can prove that you have an appointment and taking the shortest practicable route.

I know this is definitely the case in Tasmanian and NSW from memory and I would be surprised if all other states are not the same.

Visit Qld Transport site re driving unregistered, I drove mine from memory you only need a permit.

FST68 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2010, 09:34:59 am »

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Originally posted by Brent
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Originally posted by djc
Im pretty sure bud that you are covered to and from the point of inspection without having to trailer the vehicle.

All states that I am aware of would cover you to the inspection and from the inspection provided that you can prove that you have an appointment and taking the shortest practicable route.

I know this is definitely the case in Tasmanian and NSW from memory and I would be surprised if all other states are not the same.

Visit Qld Transport site re driving unregistered, I drove mine from memory you only need a permit.

if you are on your way to the transport department to get it regestered all you need is your 3rd party insurance paid and a completed registration form in the car with you. I have done this several times been pulled over and never had a problem, even been escorted to the transport department.

m67gl · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2010, 04:46:41 pm »

they probably wont give you a straight forward engine number. I found that if it is pre 68 you can stamp your own engine number (last 6 digits of Vin), and they are happy with that. Saves the hassles plus it sounds like this guy wouldn't know if this was legit or not.

non member · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2010, 04:53:44 pm »

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Originally posted by m67gl
they probably wont give you a straight forward engine number. I found that if it is pre 68 you can stamp your own engine number (last 6 digits of Vin), and they are happy with that. Saves the hassles plus it sounds like this guy wouldn't know if this was legit or not.

I would ask them to "assign" a # as the last 6 digits could line up with something already here, unlikely, but possible.

My luck it would be a stolen & not yet recovered engine. :_

FST68 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2010, 05:12:14 pm »

I had this very issue when registering my mussy.

its not worth the risk and certainly not worth the hastle.

You will need to contact a police CIB unit to a quire a surrogate vin number and they will want to inspect the vehicle to confirm it is not stolen. once they are satisfied they will then instruct queensland transport to issue you with a number which you will then have to stamp on the block.

shaunp · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2010, 05:22:29 pm »

Mustang auto parts in Brisbane will have amber lenses and it will need an engine number.

fangstang · « **Reply #21 on:** April 26, 2010, 09:09:40 pm »

yes you just go to the transport department and they will give you a number that you need to stamp your self,if you ask nicely they will do a search to see if you can use the last numbers of your vin which is much better as it all matches when you try and resell the car.
as per getting a permit to drive from your house to a roadworthy approval station you can only get one in queensland for a unregistered roadworthy car so that stops that idea (everything keeps getting better)
im a mechanic in queensland with a roadworthy lic and the problem is that there has been a real crack down on roadworthy approval stations and the fines are to the mechanic not to the employers so we tend to be very careful with what we pass (unlike before the crackdown).
and the problem is there are many ways the lo2 compliance can be understood in queensland with the way it is set out in black and white,every engineer has his own trademark on what he wants done.

HAPPY ONE · « **Reply #22 on:** April 26, 2010, 09:36:46 pm »

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Originally posted by Flameman1
The L02 compliance for ADR from the Engineer cost me $1500 so I will let him sort it out with the roadworthy guys. I also forgot to mention that he also failed me as the engine had no engine number and I tried to explain to him that Ford in the US did not start stamping blocks with engine numbers until 1968/69 so mine being a 66 does not have one. He reckons I need to take my car to Qld Transport for them to confirm that it does not have an engine number and then they will send a report to the Qld police to check/confirm that car is all "above board" I don't think he has game to use the word "stolen as Iwas pretty angry by this stage! As the car is deemed not to be roadworthy, I have to spend more $$ on tow truck to take car to Qld Transport, will this merry-go-round ever stop???? Hopefully common sense will prevail and they will simply issue me with a surrogate engine number which is usually the last 6 digits of the VIN
:(

Flameman1,

Sounds like to me, you just need to get to know this wanker better and take him on a fishing trip to the Daintree River and push him overboard so a big crock can feed on his fodder!!

:w:+

Hang in there and work the problem with your engineer first though!!
:(

shelby_mustro · « **Reply #23 on:** April 28, 2010, 10:04:25 am »

Don’t worry dude I just went through the same shit. The reason why everyone is going a bit too tough on these old cars is because qld transport has been cracking down on everyone really hard lately.
From what I have herd there have been big fines and people loosening there licensing over this.

Blown66Mustang · « **Reply #24 on:** May 21, 2010, 07:34:41 pm »

Time to celebrate with a beer as I finally got full and open registration on the 66 Coupe today. The mechanic was great to work with and the roadworthy went smoothly and even the staff at my local Qld Transport office were helpful with the paperwork. Lachy - if you read this post then many thanks for your referral to Danny West Autos. Now time to concentrate on the 66 Fastback...:(

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