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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1600 on: May 16, 2016, 01:19:13 pm »
No work on the car today, had a massive day on the wine yesterday. In a world of hurt..  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1601 on: May 16, 2016, 06:18:05 pm »
No work on the car today, had a massive day on the wine yesterday. In a world of hurt..  :lmao:

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ok, well in the mean time you can check out this nice video on how your bearing works.  :lmao:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ST5wUHKCug

if yours is a tilton, this is it.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Tilton/454/60-6102/10002/-1?parentProductId=3450002


and here's the bearing rebuild kit but the ,aster may need a rebuild too.  :thumb:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tilton-62-905-Rebuild-Kit-200-300-400-600-Series-Hydraulic-Release-Bearing-Kit-/191402465395?hash=item2c9079d873:g:z9AAAOSwGWNUWjcF&vxp=mtr


Yes, this type uses brake fluid.
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1602 on: May 17, 2016, 10:11:51 am »
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oops...looks like Fitzy needs to order up a new master cylinder too.:thud:

...but the engine runs and apparently hauls friggen ass!  :thumb:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1603 on: May 17, 2016, 10:23:50 am »
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oops...looks like Fitzy needs to order up a new master cylinder too.:thud:

...but the engine runs and apparently hauls friggen ass!  :thumb:

I'll have the whole pile rebuilt by the end of all this.. :lmao:  :thud:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1604 on: May 17, 2016, 10:30:18 am »
I'll have the whole pile rebuilt by the end of all this.. :lmao:  :thud:

Yes but it is taking so long that you will have to rebuild the parts you started with first, again.  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1605 on: May 17, 2016, 10:31:33 am »
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Look at the positive side . Just think f how much you have learned in the process.  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1606 on: May 17, 2016, 11:27:25 am »
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Look at the positive side . Just think f how much you have learned in the process.  :lmao:

True, not too mention $ saved.  :thumb:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1607 on: May 17, 2016, 12:37:58 pm »
True, not too mention $ saved.  :thumb:

In reality, with everything you did, you had to have saved at least $3,000.00 aud in labor and probably more like $4,000.00.

Even with shipping costs you still saved at least 30% on your parts too, not to mention all this invaluable information about gay Rugby players and Lemon Parties that you are getting for absolutely FREE!  :lmao:

Perhaps if you mention this to the misses, she will stop putting gasoline in your $90,000.00 Diesel Land Cruiser to get even.  :thumb:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1608 on: May 17, 2016, 01:24:05 pm »
Had a quick look, the bearing is just grey. Can't see any writing or anything else on it just a blue anodized fitting where the braided line connects.

I'll try and get the mirror into a better spot to see.


Oh and i was glad to see there are 2 bolts missing from the engine mounts.. 1 on each side..  :thud:

Are they seriously taking the fkn piss...  :wtf:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1609 on: May 17, 2016, 01:30:59 pm »
Had a quick look, the bearing is just grey. Can't see any writing or anything else on it just a blue anodized fitting where the braided line connects.

I'll try and get the mirror into a better spot to see.

Ok, that is a Tilton 6000 series, so the kit I posted is correct . I can't believe they spent all that money on that one, guess it was just left over from another build like your distributor was.  :lmao:


Oh and i was glad to see there are 2 bolts missing from the engine mounts.. 1 on each side..  :thud:

Oh, that's just to reduce weight . When your engine falls out on the ground, your car is around 600 lbs lighter.  :thumb:


Are they seriously taking the fkn piss...  :wtf:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1610 on: May 17, 2016, 01:44:57 pm »
Ok, that is a Tilton 6000 series, so the kit I posted is correct . I can't believe they spent all that money on that one, guess it was just left over from another build like your distributor was.  :lmao:


Oh, that's just to reduce weight . When your engine falls out on the ground, your car is around 600 lbs lighter.  :thumb:


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I was just on Tilton's site and was about to ask if its possibly the 6000 series. Bloody $500 part..  :shrug:

Yeah there are only 1 bolt each side...

Fuming right now..

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1611 on: May 17, 2016, 02:04:32 pm »
I was just on Tilton's site and was about to ask if its possibly the 6000 series. Bloody $500 part..  :shrug:

Yeah there are only 1 bolt each side...

Fuming right now..

You don't need the bearing . All you need is the $25.00 seal kit I posted if the seal is bad but it might just be a loose fitting.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1612 on: May 17, 2016, 02:07:37 pm »
You don't need the bearing . All you need is the $25.00 seal kit I posted if the seal is bad but it might just be a loose fitting.

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The thought of pulling the box for a loose fitting just infuriates me...  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1613 on: May 17, 2016, 02:21:35 pm »
The thought of pulling the box for a loose fitting just infuriates me...  :lmao:

Well if it will make you feel better you can get the worn third gear synchro in your trans replaced while you are at it.  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1614 on: May 17, 2016, 02:29:16 pm »
Oh and i was glad to see there are 2 bolts missing from the engine mounts.. 1 on each side..  :thud:

Maybe they simply vibrated out from the massive increase in power from your new cam.  :thumb:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1615 on: May 17, 2016, 02:56:46 pm »
Well if it will make you feel better you can get the worn third gear synchro in your trans replaced while you are at it.  :lmao:

Yeah, i've been meaning to ask. Whats the grinding you said you heard?

My issues are with 1st and 2nd



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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1616 on: May 17, 2016, 02:57:32 pm »
Maybe they simply vibrated out from the massive increase in power from your new cam.  :thumb:

Or yet more quality "pro" work..

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1617 on: May 17, 2016, 03:18:49 pm »
Or yet more quality "pro" work..

Apparently, but I was trying to make you feel better.  :therethere:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1618 on: May 17, 2016, 03:21:37 pm »
Yeah, i've been meaning to ask. Whats the grinding you said you heard?

My issues are with 1st and 2nd

The grinding noise was the third gear synchros . Quite typical in an old trans . Might go away once you get the clutch fixed, but if it's still there, it will kind of be like your intake manifold was where it is much easier to r and r the sscond time around.  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1619 on: May 17, 2016, 04:55:05 pm »
Moved the car earlier and it got stuck coming out of reverse. The lockout jammed and i couldn't get it across to 1st, eventually it released and i could get it into 1st.

3rd to 4th are smooth like butter, but 1st to 2nd aren't as smooth, sometimes very rough. 2nd to 3rd isn't too bad but 3rd to 2nd, 2nd to 1st is a nightmare at times.

It frequently refuses to go into 2nd then 1st from 3rd gear..


So it looks like i have no choice but to pull the box out...  :thumb: :toetapping:


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I'm fast running out of patience for this continued crap..  :thud: :cry:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1620 on: May 17, 2016, 05:06:30 pm »
So it looks like i have no choice but to pull the box out...  :thumb: :toetapping:

ummm, why is that a surprise since i told you that two days ago unless you were helplessly hoping it would magically fix itself?  :shrug:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1621 on: May 17, 2016, 05:18:08 pm »
ummm, why is that a surprise since i told you that two days ago unless you were helplessly hoping it would magically fix itself?  :shrug:


I was hoping it was just a bad dream..  :lmao:


Well, looks like its out to the back shed for awhile.

I don't have the patience, time and potential big $ to fk around with it right now..

If the last thing taught me anything it will be $ after $$$$ after $$$$$$ which isn't a priority at the moment unfortunately and i'm at the point of finding it very hard to justify spending anymore time and money on it.

Sadly might be time to cut my loses..


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1622 on: May 17, 2016, 05:29:25 pm »
Its  was said before somewhere but what gear box ? . If its a top loader make sure its not just a shifter problem .  If it gets stuck in reverse again and won't go into 1st or any other gear put it into reverse again then try another gear . Don't keep trying other gears you always have to go back into the reverse gear again .

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1623 on: May 17, 2016, 05:38:45 pm »

I don't have the patience, time and potential big $ to fk around with it right now..

Its not big dollars . like i said, it's $25.00.

even if the 3rd gear synchro is worn, it will typically only grind a little when shifting fast at high rpm . you could drive it for maybe 10,000 or 15,000 kilos before it gets really bad, but fixing the clutch will certainly help and increase its life span and putting some new correct oil will probably help also but that wont help a leaking seal in the bearing or master.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1624 on: May 17, 2016, 05:40:20 pm »
Its  was said before somewhere but what gear box ? . If its a top loader make sure its not just a shifter problem .  If it gets stuck in reverse again and won't go into 1st or any other gear put it into reverse again then try another gear . Don't keep trying other gears you always have to go back into the reverse gear again .

Yeah it's a close ratio top loader.


It hasn't got stuck in reverse before like this, only happened a couple of times now. When i say reverse i mean coming out of reverse it sort of gets stuck in limbo moving back across to 1st and the lockout gets jammed. Has only happened 2 or 3 times now out of no where.

As ive been saying to Barn the major issue is the hydraulic leak and how hard it is now to select 1st and 2nd gear. Its worse down shifting and sometimes it absolutely refuses to find 2nd or 1st and when it does its like swinging off the lever to get it in.

Not exactly ideal in peak hour traffic at a set of lights  :lmao: :lmao:

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