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Offline GLENN 70

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1450 on: May 04, 2016, 03:01:19 pm »
 :omg:  :pepper:  :pepper: :banana: :banana: :fantastic: :elefant: :elefant: :bag: :fingerx: :thumb:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1451 on: May 04, 2016, 03:12:49 pm »
Quote from: GLENN 70 on May 04, 2016, 03:01:19 pm
:omg:  :pepper:  :pepper: :banana: :banana: :fantastic: :elefant: :elefant: :bag: :fingerx: :thumb:

 :lmao:

I had faith from the beginning, but I was kinda thinking it would have taken a few less pages.
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I guess I can now say that the first intake install leaked cuz he kinda put the gaskets on upside down and kinda didn't quite follow my instructions either cuz I guess maybe he just though I was bein excessively anal . Guess he has since reevaluated his opinion.  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1452 on: May 04, 2016, 05:16:23 pm »
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Refresh my memory what was the opening post about  :grin:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1453 on: May 04, 2016, 05:33:03 pm »
Quote from: 69ISH on May 04, 2016, 05:16:23 pm
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Refresh my memory what was the opening post about  :grin:

I think it was titled "How do you host a Lemon party?".  :lmao:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1454 on: May 05, 2016, 09:39:12 am »
Quote from: 69ISH on May 04, 2016, 05:16:23 pm
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Just giving the people what they want...  :thumb: :lmao:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1455 on: May 05, 2016, 11:12:26 am »
Better than 'Days of our Lives'  like sands through the hourglass... Good onya Fitzy glad it's all worked out :cheers:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1456 on: May 05, 2016, 11:31:10 am »
Quote from: Stimo on May 05, 2016, 11:12:26 am
Better than 'Days of our Lives'  like sands through the hourglass... Good onya Fitzy glad it's all worked out :cheers:

Yeah, everything worked out great....including the divorce.  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1457 on: May 05, 2016, 12:33:26 pm »
Quote from: Stimo on May 05, 2016, 11:12:26 am
Better than 'Days of our Lives'  like sands through the hourglass... Good onya Fitzy glad it's all worked out :cheers:


Mate so am i.

What a journey.. :thud:  :lol:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1458 on: May 05, 2016, 12:43:24 pm »
Quote from: Fitzy1980 on May 05, 2016, 12:33:26 pm

Mate so am i.

What a journey.. :thud:  :lol:

ummm, it is FAR, FAR, FAR, from over yet  cuz now we get to set the timing curve AND your cherished Webers, and if you thought installing the cam or the distributor gear, or doing the intake TWICE was hard, you are SORELY MISTAKEN when compared to what is next.  :lmao: 
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1459 on: May 05, 2016, 12:54:24 pm »
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So, here's the FITZY update for today.  :santa:

ENGINE

Fired car up and it smoked a little and blackened the plugs again but less than it did with the colder plugs . Fuel mix screws were then turned in a little cuz Fitzy wanted to try that and it supposedly idles the same but quit smoking and the plugs are much less black.


SUMMARY

The hotter plugs are burning off a significantly greater amount of the fuel than the other plugs as I had hoped they would so they are not instantly fouling like his others were.  :thumb:

The smoking might have stopped by itself after the engine got warmer anyway so this is inconclusive.  :shrug:

Fitzy followed instructions for a change and got the thermostat installed and it doesn't leak.  :kickass:

The new thermostat is working and his engine FINALLY got up to around 125 f after maybe 5 minutes of running, so the thing should run right on 180 like a real car instead of the 150 or so it would occasionally reach before.  :thumb:


EXHAUST

It has between 2 1/2" to 3" tubes going int a small resonator on each side then into mufflers after that . It does not look like it has a cross over . If it does not, this is why his engine sounds like a race engine and his exhaust tone sounds GAY.


COLORTUNE

Looks like he will be ordering it today for "overnight" delivery.  :lmao:


MSD BOX
I think I have finally convinced him to get one.  :thud:

Anyone want to buy a separate MSD soft touch rev limiter cheap?


FUEL PUMP

Well, I haven't had the heart to tell him yet but his $500.00 CV billet fuel pump is junk so he needs another one.  :bolt:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1460 on: May 05, 2016, 03:13:40 pm »
FUEL PUMP

The best deal on a fuel pump is a cast aluminum carter M60968 . 172 GPH with AN 10 inlet and AN 8 outlet . $159.00 in the US.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/crt-m60968/overview/make/ford

The only pump I can find in oz is an Edelbrock Victor 130 GPH with AN 10 inlet and AN 10 outlet so I think you need an AN 8 female to AN 10 male adapter because that is what your current pump has.

https://shop.rocketindustries.com.au/products/ED1715#.VyrS8OSH9LM

http://autofittings-uk.com/shop/en/an-an-adapter/230-an10-an-10-female-to-an8-an-8-male-reducer-adapter-fitting-autobahn88-ft030-a10a08.html


You can also send your pos pump out to be rebuilt or try it yourself or sell it on Ebay needing a rebuild for maybe $100.00 aud or something . You can buy a rebuild kit or parts separately.

All I can say is that I am not impressed with a $400.00 fuel pump that doesn't pump fuel.
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1461 on: May 05, 2016, 03:47:29 pm »
Good pumps as long as the block can take them  ? .  Some Dart blocks or later blocks don't have the fuel pump fitting.
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1462 on: May 05, 2016, 04:00:59 pm »
Quote from: GLENN 70 on May 05, 2016, 03:47:29 pm
Good pumps as long as the block can take them  ? .  Some Dart blocks or later blocks don't have the fuel pump fitting.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1463 on: May 05, 2016, 04:17:57 pm »
Barnett what do you mean   :shrug: thought you knew everything
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1464 on: May 05, 2016, 04:20:34 pm »
Quote from: GLENN 70 on May 05, 2016, 04:17:57 pm
Barnett what do you mean   :shrug: thought you knew everything

Sorry, you must have me confused with mort.  :lmao:

Which of the three fuel pumps I mentioned are you saying is good?

or are you saying all of them are good?

or two out of three of them are good?

or soccer players are gayer than football players?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1465 on: May 05, 2016, 04:29:00 pm »
I said good pumps ,not a good pump .  Some need a fuel regulator  , but in his case they all need a reg because the webers can't Handel high pressure and about 3 psi is max unlike a holley carb .
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1466 on: May 05, 2016, 04:39:33 pm »
Quote from: GLENN 70 on May 05, 2016, 04:29:00 pm
I said good pumps ,not a good pump .  Some need a fuel regulator  , but in his case they all need a reg because the webers can't Handel high pressure and about 3 psi is max unlike a holley carb .

well his $400.00 billet cv pump doesn't seem to be to good at the moment so i'd cross that one off your list.

What webers like his should really have a constant flow pump that has high flow and low pressure then it should have a return line so the fuel going into the carb is always cool, but i seriously doubt his minister of finance will allow him to spring for that.



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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1467 on: May 05, 2016, 04:46:16 pm »
I have a friend with a mustang with a big dollar 420 stroker that is having fuel pump problems (electric) and does not run a return line and his chief engineer  says it doesn't need one and I say it does .  The pump runs hot and it losers fuel pressure till it cools down  :thud:  but what would I know . 
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1468 on: May 05, 2016, 04:55:40 pm »
Quote from: GLENN 70 on May 05, 2016, 04:46:16 pm
I have a friend with a mustang with a big dollar 420 stroker that is having fuel pump problems (electric) and does not run a return line and his chief engineer  says it doesn't need one and I say it does .  The pump runs hot and it losers fuel pressure till it cools down  :thud:  but what would I know .

Is it the same "chief engineer" that built fitzy's engine?  :lmao:

Fkng amazing how smart all these "experts" are and how much money they make for some of the crap they produce.

The webers like a return line so the fuel going in will always be cool . They actually like a heat insulator between them and the intake too which nobody seems to know about.



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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1469 on: May 05, 2016, 05:00:13 pm »
Just like they like the heat crossover in the intake to warm the manifold up in a hot place like QLD .
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1470 on: May 05, 2016, 05:06:41 pm »
Quote from: GLENN 70 on May 05, 2016, 05:00:13 pm
Just like they like the heat crossover in the intake to warm the manifold up in a hot place like QLD .

never seen an aftermarket setup with a heat cross over . sounds like an english idea .

im guessing my maseratti had one being a smog era car but i never looked to see . luckily they were pretty dialed in on that so i didn't have to do much . it had a manual choke and it would spit fire and run like crap until it got warmed up, just the way a real high perf engine should.  :thumb:


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1471 on: May 06, 2016, 07:27:25 am »
does it have a stock gas tank?

does the tank look old or new?

what are the numbers on the top of the pump?


i called cv today and they said either the diaphragm is dried up or there is something wrong with the valving . you can remove the valving and if it is dirty, you can clean it.

that pump may be 10 years old . who knows if they gave you a used one.

go to page 64 in this link and it shows generally how the pumps are made . a rebuild kit is $150.00 usd but they may sell parts separately.

https://issuu.com/cvproducts/docs/2015_cv_catalog?e=8191922/33524639
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1472 on: May 06, 2016, 09:43:40 am »
 :cry:

Well im now convinced life hates me...  :lmao:

Get woken up about 2am  to a loud bang. Run outside to find the Mustang about 4 metres down the driveway from where i left it..

Luckily i had the bullbar on the front of the Landcruiser to bring it to an abrubt stop...  :cry: :ouch:

So now i can add a crushed rear bumper and panel work to the list of things that are f@#k'd..

All i can do is laugh really....  :lmao:

Dont know whats happened. It wasn't in gear but the hydraulic hand brake was on like it has been for 6 mths so i don't know if its bled down slightly or whats happened..

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1473 on: May 06, 2016, 09:57:07 am »
ummm...never leave a car on a hill in neutral even with the parking brake on.  :thumb:

just look at it as an opportunity to install those shelby tail lights you always wanted.  :bolt:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1474 on: May 06, 2016, 10:16:26 am »
Fritzy you have to be JOKING ,you poor bugger its just not your year .  Sounds a bit like  my last year ,it was a shocker for me .   A the moment my 70 has no brakes ,the master cyl shit it self a couple of weeks ago so I got it rebuilt , and now the booster has shit it self  :thud: . But that's ok because I have the 66 but wait , the brake booster has shit it self  :thud: .  Got to love these cars hey   :smile01:
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