Bob (Blue 302) dropped his Concours kit over of Saturday, I had a bit of a play on an MGA Roadster, that was painted in 08 but has never been on the road, The Menzerna seems to work pretty well but I'm thinking I'll get some similar type pads that came with Bob's kit to use on the my rotary machines, I'm not sure I like the random orbit unit, it's pretty light, & a little slow to cut, not keen on the vibration either, I kind of feltl like I really have tp push it, rather then the machine doing the work, I think I'll use the Rupes rotary for all but the finest polish, I'll try and use the Concours unit for that, but Ill try and compare the 2 units at this stage as well. I'll have to get on to one of the vendors for some pads I think.