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MCMLXV Coupe build. 289w to Coyote 5.0
« on: September 09, 2012, 11:35:34 am »
Brought my '65 a few months ago and while some cringe at her state of affairs, I see it as exactly what I wanted with nothing else.

Purchased off Gumtree, she came with 41,000 mls, hadn't been registered in Australia ever and last registered in the US in 1989.... So had been sitting and waiting and had passed through 2 owner since residing in Oz and travelled across the country between them. Now it's my turn in WA......

I wasn't going to mention her purchase price, but it's a fairly valid point of reason in my purchase. At $1800 we drove away with her, thats right she drove and fairly well too, considering the little use in the last 20 years. Drove up on a trailer and back home in Perth.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2012, 09:29:01 am by Tonic »
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 11:45:31 am »
« Last Edit: September 09, 2012, 08:46:54 pm by Tonic »
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2012, 11:48:08 am »
While this picture is of a Fastback, (of which I don't have) this is the base and look I'm after.
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2012, 12:03:29 pm »
congrats Tonic & welcome to the forum. Hope you start off a thread highlighting the whole build, start to finish.............We love build threads here!...check mine its link is in my signature.....cheers Dale :thumb:
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2012, 12:18:40 pm »
Look forward to seeing how this evolves. I'm going for a black car too but I'm still in the early days of the body work.

I think you might find this a good read if you have some rust issues to work with. This guy and his son are amazing at what they do. He has plenty of other in-depth build threads on that forum as well.

http://www.spiuserforum.com/showthread.php?297-1965-Mustang-rust-repair

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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2012, 01:47:35 pm »
Cheers Guys, I'll flow this thread into a build thread also.....

This picture is of the bonnet I want. Found that it's off a 67 GTA but am having trouble trying to find one, picture is of a '65 Fastback.
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2012, 02:13:39 pm »
As I brought her.
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2012, 02:41:44 pm »
The plan is....... Over some very methodical days, to gradually strip the car taking particular note and pictures of where and how things have come off. At points (usually pending weather) to strip, degrease, acid dip, prime and undercoat various components and refit them ensuring that the vehicle is still a good runner and can be moved around with ease.

The main focus to start is the donk......

With 41,000 mls there wasn't much that needed to be done to get her firing on all cylinders properly. With inspection of the oil system, found that the oil was still in a very good condition and with no (or very little) burnt appearance. Confirming that it was indeed a very young engine.
While the oil was in decent condition, it was as thin as water and would do no good to run on, so was drained and flushed and replaced with new. At this point I decided to spend more time on the motor, replacing spark plugs and sourcing a new air filter.

Once this was complete, tried to fire her up but she wouldn't play ball. After some thought and troubleshooting found the problem to be a shot starter relay, which was replaced in about 5 minutes and $15. So with her then running, had some mates come around and we all looked and listened over some beers.
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2012, 03:06:30 pm »
This is a link to a video of her first proper running after the few things done under the bonnet. Notice the movement on the loud peddle and the increase in the RPM. (They didn't match at all)

http://s1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii637/CoolTonic/?action=view&current=465265fc.mp4

After running her for a short time it was quite apparent she had some pretty serious carby issues. (Guess that comes with sitting for 20 years) Fuel was leaking all over the place, had flat spots everywhere and every throttle position, and was sounding extremely choked up. Also, when I brought her, the carby was open to the elements (uncovered) and the bonnet was just resting open, so there could have been endless amounts of crap in there.

......... Off to the shop for some carby cleaner!!! And a shit load of WD40 also.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2012, 03:10:41 pm by Tonic »
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2012, 03:22:01 pm »
An old trick I had learnt from a masterful mechanic back in the day was to fill up everything I could in the carby with cleaner, letting it sit for a few hours (or really a bunch of beers) and start it up again, doing this a few times. After about the 4th time of doing this, again filled it all right up with carby cleaner, start it and with the revs built up quite a bit, place my hand over the carby inlet suffocating it and then ripping my hand off before it stalls, allowing the revs to pick back up again to suffocate it again under load. Did this half a dozen times and noticed the massive difference!!!

With the carby now flowing in a far better manner than before and the engine running much smoother, I started to notice and deal with the fuel leaks......
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2012, 03:57:07 pm »
With working on the carby, I noticed that the original Air Con (that wasn't going to stay) took up too much space, so I decided to remove it sooner rather than later.

From the in cab control unit, through to the compressor and front mount cooler pack was removed. Giving much more space to work. (Still for sale if anyone is interested, make an offer?)
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2012, 04:26:14 pm »
The next time I tried to start her up...... tick tick tick tick...... nothing!

Turned out the battery was flat. Put my multi meter across it and it was completely stuffed. New battery that day. With the new battery in she was still loosing power after running for a while, so checked the charge volts with the multi and it read 11.0 volts running and 12.02 switched off........ Stuffed alternator also. So attempted to remove that.
All easy till I got to the last bolt. NO GO!!! Freeze release, WD40, easyout, and heaps of F*$^ing swearing got me nowhere. I ended getting it out finally by snapping the head off, removing the bracket that held the adjuster idler and also the alternator, using a hack saw blade to cut a deep groove in the remaining bolt shaft and using large flat blade and shifter managed to unscrew it and throw it as far as I could.

Off to the shops again....... Came home with an 80amp replacement for the standard 40amp unit and a new belt.

Now, as many of you will know, with the alternator off I looked at the motor and thought..... Hmmmm....hey, now I can get the water pump off, fan out, radiator off, pullies, harmonic balancer all for replacement or rebuild, until I had stripped the entire front of the motor. Also removed the front end, lights, bumper, grill, bonnet latch, etc.
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2012, 04:56:33 pm »
I was then on a mission to source all the parts I needed to replace and strip, clean and paint all the rest.

I had decided while I was armpits deep in the engine bay I'd replace as much of the fuel, charging, air and oil systems as I could. So needed to find an Autolite 2100 repair kit, water pump and new bolt set, all new hosing with new clamps, fuel filter element and some extra fuel line so I could put a clear inline fuel filter before the standard unit (as the fuel tank will be replace with a drop tank, I wasn't interested in flushing or spending any attention to the original) Acid, primer and paint, gaskets and sealant, stainless nuts, bolts and washers and a few other bits n bobs. Total spend was about $500.

Then set to work........
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2012, 05:02:17 pm »
Came out looking like this.......
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2012, 05:04:18 pm »
And this.....
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2012, 05:21:38 pm »
Can anyone tell me how to make the photos bigger? There are coming from a photobucket account. Cheers
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2012, 05:23:57 pm »
When you hover over the photo on photobucket and the little menu comes up, copy the bottom one and paste it in your text box here. You have to do an attachment of any sort here. Simply copy and paste.
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2012, 05:24:38 pm »
like this



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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2012, 06:23:30 pm »

Cheers,
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2012, 06:25:53 pm »

Cheers,
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2012, 06:37:54 pm »
With that all back together, I moved back onto the carby.

Fuel pump diaphragm was the first obvious leak.


Nice new item here. Also had an issue with the pump arm housing..... where the 4 bolts attach the housing to the carby body, it had been over tightened to try and fix the leak (to no avail) So pulled out the file and flattened the gasket face of the housing to ensure a good seal.
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2012, 06:48:25 pm »
Next step involved lifting the carby up to access the underside..... This other plate thingo was leaking too, also had the same problem as the pump arm housing where it had been over tightened, so out with the file again, to flatten the gasket face.


New parts are ready....


So while this was apart I flooded the carby with cleaner, spraying through all little holes and crevaces and undersides of what I couldn't get to before.
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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2012, 07:02:02 pm »
With the carby back together and back on the inlet manifold I let it sit over night, to let all the gaskets and loctite #3 seal properly before starting and having fuel flowing against new seals. Throttle linkages and all attachments all back on and much to my surprise she started almost straight away. (still had plenty of carby cleaner in it)

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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2012, 07:03:08 pm »
Cheers Guys, I'll flow this thread into a build thread also.....

This picture is of the bonnet I want. Found that it's off a 67 GTA but am having trouble trying to find one, picture is of a '65 Fastback.

Back to the bonnet.... Anyone know where to find one like this?
Cheers,
Hugh.

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Re: '65 Coupe build. 289w, 3 speed.
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2012, 07:14:26 pm »
Motor now running pretty sweet, went to move her back n forth a few times, and found that the auto wouldn't play ball now....... A quick check of the box oil level indicated I needed heaps of this....


Just under 3 lts to be precise. Shocked!!! All good after having filled her up.
Cheers,
Hugh.

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