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I saw this on another forum with regard to Roll On Roll Off Shipping

"Here I've for sale what's left of my 1979 Special 10th Anniversary Pontiac Firebird Trans Am this car was and still is a 100% rust free TA. 78,000 miles on the clock. I purchased this vehicle just on 2 months ago, and while shipping RORO by H#### #########s the damage you see occurred.
But at least they said sorry, NOT!  the asking price is to cover my freight - towing - ports fees etc etc."






















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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 01:58:32 pm »
Looks like it broke the straps, and played a game of Pinball for a few days!
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 03:20:02 pm »
Beat me to it 66 Hertz.:thumb:
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 03:22:35 pm »
Quote from: 66 Hertz link=topic=16450.msg164319#msg164319
SEEN THIS A WHILE BACK HERE........
http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/viewthread.php?tid=15388#pid154675


Ah, it's already done the rounds thanks.

An update: He bought a replacement Trans Am and it was just shipped over for him a few weeks ago... (via container of course.)

Apparently he was recommended to ship via container in the first place but got a "deal" on the RO/RO and went with it.

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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 03:33:12 pm »
the lure of saving a few bucks  :banghead: ................buy cheap , buy twice...hey
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 06:20:55 pm »
Quote from: 66 Hertz link=topic=16450.msg164324#msg164324
the lure of saving a few bucks  :banghead: ................buy cheap , buy twice...hey


So true!

People need to find the difference between Value and Cheap!
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 07:29:55 pm »
Steph... Good things aren't cheap & cheap things aren't good!......period :thumb:
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 07:39:12 pm »
nice wheels but......:smile01:
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 07:47:33 pm »
FFFFUUUUU   kkkkkkkkkkkkk  that is terrible I would tear someones head off if that was me!

What a disgrace!
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 09:03:35 pm »
thats WHY you always get shipping insurance !!!!!!!! BAM
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 01:07:07 am »
WOW, I expected a little better from some of you guys and your views, I have used RORO many a time and never had any issues.

It's not a matter of being cheap, it's just simple economics.

RORO - the car is driven onto the ship and then strapped down, reverse at the other end.

CONTAINER- Car driven into container guys climbs out window straps car down amoungst other cars and parts and then locks the container doors. Container forklifted onto truck and transported to shipping yard. Container craned onto boat, reverse the other end.

More time, resources, and man power for a container load means more $$$'s, pretty simple really

You have just as much chance of a strap letting go in a container as you do on a ships deck.

Here's an example - to get out of a car in a container means climbing out the window = damaging paint work and panel depending on who's loading it



When a strap breaks, the car rubs up and down the side of the container for the whole trip as well as banging into the car forward or rear of it



How do I know, I've seen it 1st hand many a time

Not to mention container issues full stop



Containers can also take a long time to arrive due to shipping arrangements



Yes RORO has it's issues as well, but how do you think every BMW, Mercedes, SAAB, FIAT, Toyota etc... arrives in Australia ???
Not by container, that's for sure... by RORO



And all you have to do is pick it up from the dock after customs have had a gander and away you drive.



Now how many forum members know personally of a car that has been damaged by RORO ???

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 06:30:22 am »
Quote from: j1autotech link=topic=16450.msg164366#msg164366
Now how many forum members know personally of a car that has been damaged by RORO ???


A guy on another forum I belong to was the one that advised the above to send by container but you're right, his example is the exception and not the norm otherwise the practice wouldn't exist.

It would all depend on how rough the seas were at the time and advisable to get insurance either way.

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 06:48:39 am »
All true J1. Great points you make. :agree:
What we need to remember is cars also do get damaged in container shipping!
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 09:43:25 am »
Also, if a car is locked in a container, there is less chance for 'light fingers' to find their way onto any other items that may be in the car.  It's not uncommon for stereos etc to simply dissapear...

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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2011, 09:49:59 am »
Quote from: ScottW link=topic=16450.msg164379#msg164379
It's not uncommon for stereos etc to simply dissapear...


Some years ago I had my rear speakers and equaliser 'disappear' when my car was stored at a towing yard overnight, the place also had guard dogs which by chance weren't there on that particular night.

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2011, 01:42:07 pm »
The Cougar Ace was carrying a shipload of Mazdas.



On December 15, 2006, Mazda announced that all vehicles on the Cougar Ace would be scrapped.

After an extensive process to deploy all the airbags in each vehicle, all of the Mazda cars were crushed onsite at the Port of Portland by Pacific Car Crushing. The last Mazda car from the shipment was crushed on May 6, 2008


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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2011, 06:21:44 pm »
it looks like the ship is a bit tired and having a quick nanny nap...
maybe it doesn't feel well because it's eaten too much asian food...?

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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2011, 06:31:50 pm »
That was a shame. it was a nice looking car.  Reminds everyone of insurnace whether its in a container or not.

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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2011, 06:32:50 pm »
Quote from: StephenSLR link=topic=16450.msg164398#msg164398
The Cougar Ace was carrying a shipload of Mazdas.



On December 15, 2006, Mazda announced that all vehicles on the Cougar Ace would be scrapped.

After an extensive process to deploy all the airbags in each vehicle, all of the Mazda cars were crushed onsite at the Port of Portland by Pacific Car Crushing. The last Mazda car from the shipment was crushed on May 6, 2008


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Whats interesting about that one is that most of the cars were not damaged, despite the extreme angle of the boat.

My understanding was that they were only destroyed by Mazda for political reasons. (probably so they weren't inflicted on the general public :smile02: )
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2011, 02:15:30 am »
Quote from: j1autotech link=topic=16450.msg164366#msg164366

Wouldn't one place some sort of wheel blocks to stop it swaying side to side?  I can't see the straps working too well against any sideways force.

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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2017, 07:05:37 pm »
thanks guys - have a car on the water now (container), so on top of the bloody wait I now have more worries :(

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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2017, 08:59:28 pm »
Why worry, I am sure it is not a common occurrence, these guys are professionals


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