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Technical & General Discussion Area => Tech Torque Pre 1973 => Topic started by: Small Block on September 29, 2020, 09:19:54 pm

Title: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Small Block on September 29, 2020, 09:19:54 pm
Does anyone know the part numbers for the front disc brake pads for a 65 Mustang disc brake conversion?
Thanks,
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: GLENN 70 on September 30, 2020, 07:48:43 am
You might have to take them out and take them into a store like Bursons so they can do a match up . If they can not match them up with any you might have to get them rebonded or order a new set from the USA .
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: nickd on September 30, 2020, 03:14:14 pm
Sometimes the pad will have a part number on the back. Otherwise, put up a photo of the caliper and someone may be able to tell you what it is off.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Dwayne on September 30, 2020, 03:31:39 pm
What conversion have you got?

Is it just the KH style calipers or something more modern that was adapted to fit?
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Small Block on September 30, 2020, 03:40:34 pm
It' the Kelsey Hayes style, so I'm hoping these are just a regular brake pad that can be ordered from somewhere like Repco?
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Dwayne on September 30, 2020, 04:51:02 pm
Any of the local mustang suppliers will be able to help you then, I'm guessing most would carry a consumable like them in stock
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Small Block on September 30, 2020, 05:34:29 pm
Any of the local mustang suppliers will be able to help you then, I'm guessing most would carry a consumable like them in stock
I was just hoping to order a set through Supercheap or Repco, or Bursons... I don't know what to order though at the moment. I do see disc pads for a 65 Mustang listed at various stores, but will these fit what I have?
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: griff on September 30, 2020, 10:40:05 pm
dont order any ordinary brake pads, been there done that.
a few of us have found EBC 'green stuff' or better yet 'red stuff' pads are brilliant with KH calipers.
they're way more expensive than then garden variety SD's but totally worth it, ill check the cat# as i put some new red ones in 2 weeks ago.
(ill blame ShaunP for putting me onto them years back) :cheers:
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Small Block on October 01, 2020, 07:16:44 am
dont order any ordinary brake pads, been there done that.
a few of us have found EBC 'green stuff' or better yet 'red stuff' pads are brilliant with KH calipers.
they're way more expensive than then garden variety SD's but totally worth it, ill check the cat# as i put some new red ones in 2 weeks ago.
(ill blame ShaunP for putting me onto them years back) :cheers:
Thanks, part numbers would be great.
I did see some good brands listed with Supercheap. Are these not recommended?
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: griff on October 01, 2020, 10:19:46 am
Thanks, part numbers would be great.
I did see some good brands listed with Supercheap. Are these not recommended?

the likes of supercheap will probably have to order their brands in (ie bendix), any correct pad will work, i just have a preference for EBC red or green because theyre way better than anything else ive fitted and others whove used them will say the same.

if your setup is per that picture you posted then they look like std KH calipers.
EBC red stuff DP31157 will fit these or green stuff are a bit cheaper but excellent as well.
it depends what your budget is though mate!
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Small Block on October 01, 2020, 11:34:52 am
the likes of supercheap will probably have to order their brands in (ie bendix), any correct pad will work, i just have a preference for EBC red or green because theyre way better than anything else ive fitted and others whove used them will say the same.

if your setup is per that picture you posted then they look like std KH calipers.
EBC red stuff DP31157 will fit these or green stuff are a bit cheaper but excellent as well.
it depends what your budget is though mate!
Thanks very much! Where do you purchase these from? What sort of prices are we talking?
Are the ones listed around the place all based off the Kelsey Hayes set up? If I ordered Bendix for a 65 Mustang, will those fit?
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: 289 vert on October 03, 2020, 08:22:52 am
Yes, they should. But, the Bendix DB1807 that Supercheap lists, is incorrect. I don't think Bendix Australia carrys the 65-67 D11 KH pads
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: griff on October 03, 2020, 11:56:17 am
Yes, they should. But, the Bendix DB1807 that Supercheap lists, is incorrect. I don't think Bendix Australia carrys the 65-67 D11 KH pads

correct. bendix didn’t have them listed at all, i’ve looked through their dealers catalogue that has full scale outline drawings of pads.
the only luck you may have is finding them listed as ‘67 mustang or XR falcon V8 with KH, i lost interest in finding average brake pads to be honest.
taheer if cost is an issue then just get the scott drake replacements from a mustang dealer like Sydney Mustangs or Harry’s.
EBC pads make some people on limited budgets reach for a defibrillator.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: 289 vert on October 03, 2020, 01:43:35 pm
EBC pads make some people on limited budgets reach for a defibrillator.
:smile01: So true.
In America, the Bendix pads are $22. EBC, Porterfield R4-S, and Hawk HPS will cost at least 6 times that. The Bendix pads are definitely average.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Gallop on October 06, 2020, 10:02:42 pm
Hi Griff,

Just wondering from where you buy your EBC brakes pads?

Thanks.

Andrew
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: griff on October 07, 2020, 10:01:38 pm
hey andrew. i see you’re in brisbane i bought my first set from a brake specialist in Capalaba while up there some years back, but recently got slotted RDA rotors and EBC red pads from my local PEPS auto parts.
i did all the enquires first with RDA in Brisbane who referred me to PEPS down here in southern sydney.
look up rdabrakes.com.au

footnote: after a month of bedding in the discs and pads i did some serious braking at speed down Bulli Pass south of Sydney, those who are familiar will know how steep and long it is and it’ll test how much brake fade you’ll get by the bottom, i was extremely pleased with how good they performed to say the least. all up they cost $550. well worth it
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: evan on October 08, 2020, 07:56:46 am
footnote: after a month of bedding in the discs and pads i did some serious braking at speed down Bulli Pass south of Sydney, those who are familiar will know how steep and long it is and it’ll test how much brake fade you’ll get by the bottom, i was extremely pleased with how good they performed to say the least. all up they cost $550. well worth it
I also installed RDA slotted/dimpled rotors & EBC Redstuff pads a few months back. I'm now getting less fade & more bite. I was concerned about cold braking but was pleasantly surprised. 3-4 times the price of others but worth every cent. I'm running the Commodore caliper/Falcon rotor setup and have tried at least 5 different pads. The only ones that worked were Remsa & EBC. I've always been happy with Bendix in the wife's car but for some reason, they just wouldn't bite in the Mustang.

Evan.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: birdman on October 08, 2020, 08:02:30 pm
I also installed RDA slotted/dimpled rotors & EBC Redstuff pads a few months back. I'm now getting less fade & more bite. I was concerned about cold braking but was pleasantly surprised. 3-4 times the price of others but worth every cent. I'm running the Commodore caliper/Falcon rotor setup and have tried at least 5 different pads. The only ones that worked were Remsa & EBC. I've always been happy with Bendix in the wife's car but for some reason, they just wouldn't bite in the Mustang.

Evan.

Hey Evan,
What booster/master set up are you running?
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: evan on October 08, 2020, 08:20:21 pm
Ha, just mentioned what I'm running on another thread Johnny!  :grin:

I'm running a universal 7" dual diaphragm booster with XB M/C.

Evan.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Small Block on October 09, 2020, 05:53:25 pm
EBC pads make some people on limited budgets reach for a defibrillator.
Sure does!! I just can't justify $250 for a set of brake pads. I think I have found a good alternative though and will give these a try. While looking for a good brake pad, I did have a sales Rep say that he thought EBC were overpriced for what you get. Who knows, so I will see how I go.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: birdman on October 09, 2020, 08:35:01 pm
Ha, just mentioned what I'm running on another thread Johnny!  :grin:

I'm running a universal 7" dual diaphragm booster with XB M/C.

Evan.

Thanks Evan, just read it.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: griff on October 09, 2020, 11:29:22 pm
Sure does!! I just can't justify $250 for a set of brake pads. I think I have found a good alternative though and will give these a try. While looking for a good brake pad, I did have a sales Rep say that he thought EBC were overpriced for what you get. Who knows, so I will see how I go.

Ha when a sales rep says something is overpriced, its usually their oppostion's superior product they're referring to....
(price is never a problem for me, if its worth it ill pay it :thumb:)
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Small Block on October 10, 2020, 09:43:48 am
Ha when a sales rep says something is overpriced, its usually their oppostion's superior product they're referring to....
(price is never a problem for me, if its worth it ill pay it :thumb:)
Or it could  be that they are over priced for what you get...
Either way, time will tell
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: evan on October 10, 2020, 10:55:54 am
Or it could  be that they are over priced for what you get...
Either way, time will tell
I would normally agree but not in this case. After buying so many different brake pads, master cylinders, rotors, pressure tester & God knows what else, the $200 odd I spent on Redstuff pads was money well spent. I'd hate to think how many hours I poured into chasing my braking issues. I've always been a fan of Bendix but in this particular case, they wouldn't pull up the car. Possibly something to do with my conversion but I've heard others on this forum requiring EBC pads with their KH brakes.

Give the cheaper pads a try & if they don't work, go the Reds.

Evan.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: Gallop on October 12, 2020, 07:43:04 pm
Thanks for the information about RDA brakes - I think a set of EBC brake pads will be coming my way soon.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: fastrc on October 14, 2020, 09:22:38 pm
Does anyone have a part number for the EBC green stuff pads that fit the KH style calipers, also a stockist around Bayswater area eastern suburbs Melbourne ?.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: evan on October 15, 2020, 08:57:40 am
Does anyone have a part number for the EBC green stuff pads that fit the KH style calipers, also a stockiest around Bayswater area eastern suburbs Melbourne ?.
Just call Stewart at Brake Place Mitcham, he'll get them in for you.
Note, Stewart will recommend that you use Redstuff, as suggested by the manufacturer. Greens are rated for smaller cars, below 200BHP.

Evan.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: birdman on October 15, 2020, 02:44:34 pm
Hi Griff,

Just wondering from where you buy your EBC brakes pads?

Thanks.

Andrew

Right here...
https://richmond-brake-and-clutch.myshopify.com/products/ebc-redstuff-ceramic-brake-pads-front-ford-territory-sz-dp31511-db1473?variant=32443442266205&currency=AUD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2019-12-04&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpdPWo9a17AIV2AorCh0rvQojEAQYAiABEgKHE_D_BwE
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: fastrc on October 16, 2020, 11:55:23 am
Thanks Evan, I called Stewart and he was extremely helpful but unfortunately the Aust distributor has none in stock.
Before I order overseas can someone confirm #DP31157C is the correct EBC Red Stuff pads for KH style front calipers ?.

Just call Stewart at Brake Place Mitcham, he'll get them in for you.
Note, Stewart will recommend that you use Redstuff, as suggested by the manufacturer. Greens are rated for smaller cars, below 200BHP.

Evan.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: USA066 on October 16, 2020, 03:06:09 pm
Looks like BrakesDirect.com.au have them in stock for $A256. You can chat with them, might be worth a try.
Title: Re: Front Disc Brake Pads
Post by: pgold on December 14, 2020, 08:55:04 pm
Plus 1 - for EDC Redstuff disk pads. My 69 sports roof was 4 wheel drum car. Now has after market booster with mustang 1" dual MC, RRS front suspension-VT Commodore disk and callipers. 351C has Cam and produces 15 in vacuum. Brake pedal has always been heavy and lacked urgency to stop. I have been collecting parts to install a 12v vacuum pump and tank but installed a set of EDC Redstuff pads today. Went for test drive to start bedding them in and locked up the fronts wheels on forth peddle application. Peddle feel has improved out of sight and brakes feel like they have bite and I have only driven 20 km. BIG  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: for EDC Redstuff from me :pepper: :burnout: