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Title: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Glen Mach 1 on September 12, 2020, 08:48:10 am
Hi all,

I looked over the previous forums but don’t seem to be able to get a final position on the best headers to get for a 351c 2v auto with power steering.  There also seems to be a few supporting keeping the current and cleaning out the current manifolds.  Any direction would be great.


Second question is the exhaust system to go with the headers.  Custom stainless for $2000 or a off the shelf for $1500 with x over... improve the sound and hp.

Thanks again in advance for the advice.
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Daz 67GTA on September 21, 2020, 01:53:36 pm
Hey Glen -
I'm thinking that the 67-69 Engine bay was pretty much identical.. if that is the case...
I've got a 351C in my 67, running Patriot headers (ceramic coated) bought them online from the states.
Perfect fit with no mods.
My 67 is T bar Auto with PS. (Ram style)

I actualy purchased Manual headers (as they were out of stock for the Auto ones) and these still fitted perfectly....keep away from Hooker.. they don't fit.

Hope that helps

Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Glen Mach 1 on September 25, 2020, 09:42:03 pm
Thanks Daz - appreciate the advice.  I’ll take a look on line.

Cheers

Glen
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Glen Mach 1 on September 26, 2020, 03:24:24 pm
Just wanted to check if these were the ones you got or a different variant...Patriot Exhaust Long Tube Headers Ceramic Coated 1-3/4" 2BBL 351C 1971-1973.

Again mine is a 1969 with a 351c 2v LHD, power steering and automatic.

This was front the CJ Pony Parts website.

Thanks

Glen
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Daz 67GTA on September 28, 2020, 08:44:53 am
Hey Glen -
Probably not those ones.

These ones would be correct though.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Patriot-Exhaust-H8407-B-Ford-Specific-Fit-Headers-1967-1970-Ford-Mustang-Cougar/114402835026?epid=214987251&hash=item1aa2f0ba52:g:0LoAAOSwkf1fWz9C (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Patriot-Exhaust-H8407-B-Ford-Specific-Fit-Headers-1967-1970-Ford-Mustang-Cougar/114402835026?epid=214987251&hash=item1aa2f0ba52:g:0LoAAOSwkf1fWz9C)

I looked on JEGS website and I can see the ceramic ones.
https://www.jegs.com/i/Patriot-Exhaust/737/H8407-1/10002/-1?year=1969&make=FORD&model=MUSTANG&submodel=BASE (http://)

The actual headers I got are these ones.
Through JEGS. (Via ebay US)
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: HEVEN67 on September 29, 2020, 09:59:20 am
Hey Glen -
I'm thinking that the 67-69 Engine bay was pretty much identical.. if that is the case...
I've got a 351C in my 67, running Patriot headers (ceramic coated) bought them online from the states.
Perfect fit with no mods.
My 67 is T bar Auto with PS. (Ram style)

I actualy purchased Manual headers (as they were out of stock for the Auto ones) and these still fitted perfectly....keep away from Hooker.. they don't fit.

Hope that helps

Hi Daz
I would be interested in seeing a few picks of the engine bay and fit please.
Luvhev
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Daz 67GTA on September 29, 2020, 10:54:06 am
Hi Daz
I would be interested in seeing a few picks of the engine bay and fit please.
Luvhev
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Daz 67GTA on September 29, 2020, 10:59:39 am
Took some when the Auto was getting upgraded also
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Daz 67GTA on September 29, 2020, 11:04:15 am
LHS and RHS - and yes, I can still remove the plugs no issues.. it's tight but not hard.
Let me know if there is a specific pic you're after.. and I'll try to get one.
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Glen Mach 1 on October 06, 2020, 02:16:59 pm
Daz,

I'm assuming these will be spot on...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Patriot-Exhaust-H8408-1-Ford-Specific-Fit-Headers/313196703334

Opps - I think this is 4V...


Glen
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Glen Mach 1 on October 06, 2020, 09:46:23 pm
One more question.  Black painted finish verse ceramic coating.  The difference is about double the price $1,000 verse $500... worth the extra $?
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Dwayne on October 06, 2020, 10:21:59 pm
Ceramic coated headers will last longer and not heat up your engine bay.
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Glen Mach 1 on October 07, 2020, 07:39:55 am
So I'll go with these from Summit.  Now need to organize the right exhaust system.

Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Daz 67GTA on October 27, 2020, 01:38:35 pm
Good stuff - sorry been busy on not on the Forum for a bit. You will also need to get a drop bracket for the steering ram mount. Sorry forgot to mention that - I think they pretty cheap.
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: HEVEN67 on October 27, 2020, 01:43:51 pm
Cheers DAZ, its a left hooker so your options are available, mine is RHD and the only option when fitting a Clevo into a 67 and extractors is custom.
LUVHEV
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Glen Mach 1 on October 27, 2020, 09:15:45 pm
Thanks I’ll grab one....
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Glen Mach 1 on October 28, 2020, 08:55:42 am
Also has anyone used these for an exhaust change over in a 1969?
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Daz 67GTA on October 28, 2020, 05:34:50 pm
Cheers DAZ, its a left hooker so your options are available, mine is RHD and the only option when fitting a Clevo into a 67 and extractors is custom.
LUVHEV
Yeah... thats gotta suck.. but at least you can see what's up front when you overtake!!  :lol:
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Daz 67GTA on October 28, 2020, 05:39:49 pm
Also unless your already running one.. you will need the smaller starter (they're better than the old style and turn the motor over heaps quicker). I just got a $150 one off ebay.. reduction gear/high torque I think they're called.

I also had to re-route the power steering lines.. when you get to that part I'll send some pics. I just repalced the main HP hose.. cheap as from Rock Auto and worth doing whilst your playing. Unless you get someone to make a custome one to fit neater.
 
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: barnett468 on November 02, 2020, 03:19:46 pm
ceramic headers will heat up the engine bay nearly as much as non ceramic ones will guaranteed.

remflex gaskets are the best i have found but the soft aluminum ones work well also, all the others are complete crap.
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Glen Mach 1 on November 08, 2020, 10:13:53 pm
Just another question, 2.5inch or 3 inch exhaust system?  Was going to do 2.5.

Thanks

Glen
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Micks66coupe on November 08, 2020, 11:17:47 pm
Hi Glen size of the exhaust I believe is relevant to how much you have modified  your engine, some make the mistake of going too big and that can lead to a loss of performance. Like choosing another carburetor, when looking for a performance exhaust system bigger is not always better. :thumb:
Title: Re: 351c 1969 headers
Post by: Glen Mach 1 on January 14, 2021, 01:20:58 pm
Any comments on the following fitting ok?  1969 with 351c , auto and power steering, LHD: