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Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: KEVLYN on March 05, 2010, 12:28:21 pm
True cost of importing from USA via Shermatt

Purchase 1972 Chevy Chevelle US$14950.00

Shermatt's fee + inspection fee AU$2080.00

Overland Transport Florida-LA US$800.00

Shipping, Schumacher Logistics
incl, insurance and air con de-commission US$2374.00

Customs Fee and clearance AU$1846.00

GST on car and transport AU$1673.00

bank fees for international transfer AU$200.00

Total Cost AU$ 25958.00

Therefore the total cost to your door above the cost of the vehicle would be over AU$9000.00
this will obviously fluctuate depending on currency exchange rate and the original purchase price of the vehicle .

i have purchased a few mustangs from dealers in Australia in the past, this time i thought i would have a go myself, i did try to find out exactly how much this would cost before i committed, i still got a good buy with the Chevelle but the costs associated with the import where well above my expectations.

Just thought i would bring this to peoples attention so they now all the facts and prices (that i payed)
before they commit to a purchase of this kind.

hope this helps in your decision to personally import a vehicle.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: BLKPNY on March 05, 2010, 12:37:07 pm
you forgot the Import approval...


Did you buy the car thru Matt? I know he often pays a lot less for the cars, often negating the inspection fee.
Also, a non aircon car would have saved evacuating the air con system.

what was the $$ at when you bought it?
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Thirsty428 on March 05, 2010, 01:49:28 pm
Hi Kevlyn,

Thanks.
A friend of mine just spent almost the same amount and his camaro is nearlly on its way.

He has aksed me if you could provide more detail on

"Customs Fee and clearance AU$1846.00"

Kind Regards,
John

Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: KEVLYN on March 05, 2010, 02:01:35 pm
This is a copy of the estimate custom clearance from Freightnet the total amount was a bit more, and to answer BLKPNY, yes i saw the car on ebay and had Matt inspect it for me the AU-US $ rate at the time was $0.93 but you loose a bit when processing through the bank.

      IMPORT CUSTOMS CLEARANCE CHARGES      
        SEAFREIGHT    
               
               
IMPORT SEAFREIGHT/MOTOR VEHICLE IMPORT
DESCRIPTION     CHARGES
Formal Clearance        AUD135.00      
Port Service Charge-    AUD5500/cbm x 14.158cbm = $778.69      
Terminal Handling Charge        AUD20.00/cbm x 14.158cbm = $283.16    
Quarantine entry (if required)  AUD113.00      
Quarantine attendance   AUD35.00      
Quarantine inspection   AUD75.00 /mv/ per inspection (tere will be 2 inspections after steam clean - if required)      
E.H.C   AUD10.00      
Security Surcharge      AUD10.00      
Delivery Order  AUD60.00      
Shipping line document fee      AUD20.00      
Customs lodgement Fee   AUD72.00      
Post & Pettis   AUD5.00
Cargo Automation/CMR    AUD35.00      
Steam Clean     AUD22.00 /mv/per steam clean  
               
NOTES -        
1. Formal clearance up to 5 lines              
2. Multiple suppliers - AUD25.00 each additional line  
3. Based on arrival via Freightnet consolidation      
4. All quarantine disbursments will be additional      
5. Excludes any duties, taxes          
6. Charges for general cargo only              
7. All Charges COD
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Rock65 on March 05, 2010, 02:04:46 pm
Kevlyn,you have beaten me to it. I was also going to post the same thread ,after my car arrives (which will be 4 months from  the purchase date) so that others can refer to this as a guide to importing.

Your costs are quite accurate, but forgot the cleaning fee which you will probably be hit with on arrival ($240) and the Authority to Import ($50) + Local pit inspection ($90) rego ($600) insurance ($300) So you have to weigh up buying in Oz verses importing, although i still believe i have bought a better car from the states than i could have got here, and for less money. (but i still havent seen my car in the flesh).

There are alot of hiden costs that most people going through importing are not aware of and as a first timer i had to convince "The Treasurer" that it will still be a worth while exercise at the end of the day. Post some pics of your Chevelle and Happy Crusin'.  
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab7/rock65gt350/DSC08360.jpg)
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Forder on March 05, 2010, 02:10:33 pm
Hi,
My experience:
$800 USD for my 65 (rust free 6cyl)  (I won the jackpot)
$50 import papers
$4000 transport including EVERYTHING landed to my door.  Nothing more to pay.

I used John CAIN and his son in Orange CA.  I could not fault them and have recommend their services to many.
I was VERY lucky with my find and did have help in LA but took 1 year to find the right car.

MUSTANG664
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Shermatt on March 05, 2010, 02:16:10 pm
is this the orange one worth $50k or the green one landed in WA?

kinda curious
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Forder on March 05, 2010, 02:59:08 pm
I forgot to say arrived in 3 weeks from packing.

MUSTANG664
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Shermatt on March 05, 2010, 04:04:53 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Shermatt
is this the orange one worth $50k or the green one landed in WA for $14k?

kinda curious
 
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Red 66 on March 05, 2010, 04:11:31 pm

 Get to bed!!! You have work tomorrow ;2
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 68pony on March 05, 2010, 09:30:56 pm
Quote
Originally posted by KEVLYN
This is a copy of the estimate custom clearance from Freightnet the total amount was a bit more, and to answer BLKPNY, yes i saw the car on ebay and had Matt inspect it for me  

I'm not having a dig here just would like clarification, you say you found the car on ebay? did you bid and win the car? did shermat inspect the car before bidding? did you pay the seller direct or did shermat pay for you? Again i'm not having a dig just need to know the facts as i think $2080 for inspection fee is abit steep, am i missing something? your post is not real clear on that fee maybe shermat can clarify, again please i'm not having a dig, im getting a car shipped at the moment (hasn't left yet) through somebody else, i havn't discused shipping with them yet but i think i should after reading this post, ive spoken to a few people that have shipped in lots of car's but use a local shipper here in aus and have paid $3500au but that included all the unloading fees here, all they paid on top was gst and aqis.
cheers chris
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: mustang-jerry on March 05, 2010, 10:23:41 pm
KEVLYN,
I don't think you can include inspection fee's in your shipping cost that should be reflected in the total cost of the car as well as the transport cost to the port.

Also these cost's are the same no matter who you go through,if you had gone straight to the buyer the only thing you would have saved is the inspection fee and personally i would never import a car without one.

How much is this car worth in oz ...could you have brought one here in the same condition for that price i doubt it

PS How about some pic's  



Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: HEVEN67 on March 05, 2010, 10:26:20 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 68pony
Quote
Originally posted by KEVLYN
This is a copy of the estimate custom clearance from Freightnet the total amount was a bit more, and to answer BLKPNY, yes i saw the car on ebay and had Matt inspect it for me  

I'm not having a dig here just would like clarification, you say you found the car on ebay? did you bid and win the car? did shermat inspect the car before bidding? did you pay the seller direct or did shermat pay for you? Again i'm not having a dig just need to know the facts as i think $2080 for inspection fee is abit steep ,am i missing something? your post is not real clear on that fee maybe shermat can clarify, again please i'm not having a dig, im getting a car shipped at the moment(hasn't left yet) through somebody else, i havn't discused shipping with them yet but i think i should after reading this post, ive spoken to a few people that have shipped in lots of car's but use a local shipper here in aus and have paid $3500au but that included all the unloading fees here ,all they paid on top was gst and aqis.
cheers chris


Im not sure either, am I missing something or.........;w
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: usa289 on March 05, 2010, 10:33:00 pm
I think "shipping fees' should only be the total cost from when the car is received in Long Beach (or the shipping port) to when the car is picked/cleared from the receiving port.

Any vehicle inspection fees, coast of insuring the car in transit, GST on purchase and freight costs, road transport in US, import approval and air con gas evacuation, etc, should NOT be included as "shipping"?
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: jmd1 on March 05, 2010, 10:38:35 pm
Quote
Originally posted by mustang-jerry
KEVLYN,
I don't think you can include inspection fee's in your shipping cost that should be reflected in the total cost of the car as well as the transport cost to the port.

Also these cost's are the same no matter who you go through,if you had gone straight to the buyer the only thing you would have saved is the inspection fee and personally i would never import a car without one.

How much is this car worth in oz ...could you have brought one here in the same condition for that price i doubt it

PS How about some pic's  



 





Couldn't agree more, gst and rego etc have nothing to do with the cost of bringing in a car. $800 for cross country (assuming the car came from Florida) is dirt cheap. As for bank charges....
Time in storage is not Matts problem, my vehicle was meant to be shipped today having sat in LA since early December but was held back due to paperwork issues with another going into the container. I know that that is an excuse used all the time but what the hell can I do about it.
Unfortunately it is easy to get the red flag waving and not disclose all the facts, just what suits given the mood at the time.
Not wanting to upset anyone just MHO.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Rock65 on March 05, 2010, 10:39:02 pm
This thread should be added to "The true cost of shipping " thread so that everyone knows what the TOTAL cost is to bring a car from the USA to OZ.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: mustang-jerry on March 05, 2010, 10:41:26 pm
:( spot on USA289

I think everyone has a different idea on what shipping car's should include,main one that i hate
being included is the inspection fee's no one should buy a car without one.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: HEVEN67 on March 05, 2010, 10:42:06 pm
In the Just Cars Magazine there are folk advertising to deliver cars from the west coast USA to Aust for under $3500, I mite be mistaken but so far the car I have bought hasn't cost as much as this post suggests, I'm a bit worried now!
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Rock65 on March 05, 2010, 10:44:07 pm
And JMD1 you must be on the same boat as me as my car has been in Long Beach since the 5th of December also and had the same story about titles and paper work BS.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: mustang-jerry on March 05, 2010, 10:47:52 pm
Dont be hev the mach 1 i just imported would have been about$ 3500 plus the gst and aqis
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: mustang-jerry on March 05, 2010, 10:51:27 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Rock65
And JMD1 you must be on the same boat as me as my car has been in Long Beach since the 5th of December also and had the same story about titles and paper work BS.


Can i ask who is shipping the car for you???
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: jmd1 on March 05, 2010, 10:52:12 pm
Rock
Mines due 28/ 3. Brisbane. Tracking no is a waste of time all it is is a waste of download.
Feedback from Schumakers is non existant, they only reply when I send them a I am p.ssed off email.
Am pretty sure your car went over the same day as mine.
Will just be good to have the beast here, it's been 6 months but alls good.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: BLKPNY on March 05, 2010, 10:52:48 pm
The guy who brings my stock in, charges $3500 plus GST for shipping, paperwork etc and 1 clean.
That does not include him inspecting the car, making a deal, getting a better price by waving cash under their nose, transporting the car, storing it, etc etc. Nor does it include bank fee's etc.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: A67PNY on March 05, 2010, 10:57:15 pm
Quote
Originally posted by HEVEN67
In the Just Cars Magazine there are folk advertising to deliver cars from the west coast USA to Aust for under $3500, I mite be mistaken but so far the car I have bought hasn't cost as much as this post suggests, I'm a bit worried now!


Hey HEVEN67
I used one of those folks from the Just Cars Magazine.
Autoezy search. Fantastic.
I found the car. Gave Autoezy the money and they handled the rest.
The fee they all state does not include government charges.
When I requested a quote they replied in the most simplest
way that even I could understand. And their inspection
fee was only @700 bucks.
So there is no need to be worried.
Cheers........
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: jmd1 on March 05, 2010, 10:58:02 pm
Quote
Originally posted by BLKPNY
The guy who brings my stock in, charges $3500 plus GST for shipping, paperwork etc and 1 clean.
That does not include him inspecting the car, making a deal, getting a better price by waving cash under their nose, transporting the car, storing it, etc etc. Nor does it include bank fee's etc.



My point entirely. It is so easy to bag someone when they are not in your face. I'm quite happy with everything apart from not being kept up to date by the freight co.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 68pony on March 05, 2010, 10:58:30 pm
Quote
Originally posted by mustang-jerry
:( spot on USA289

I think everyone has a different idea on what shipping car's should include,main one that i hate
being included is the inspection fee's no one should buy a car without one.
 

Mate i'm not trying to start a slanging match, it was a seriuos question , i would not buy a car without a inspection but $2080 sounds steep , i just want to know what else that fee included , the other post on the same subject stated his inspection fee was $171, i'm not having a go at shernat but this thread is abit misleading , as i stated when shermat gets a chance i'm sure he will answer the question.
cheers
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Rock65 on March 05, 2010, 11:01:12 pm
Quote
Originally posted by mustang-jerry
Quote
Originally posted by Rock65
And JMD1 you must be on the same boat as me as my car has been in Long Beach since the 5th of December also and had the same story about titles and paper work BS.


Can i ask who is shipping the car for you???
Yep going with Shumachers,just about ready to fly over and see if my car exists. Getting sick of excuses.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: BLKPNY on March 05, 2010, 11:03:11 pm
From reading a few of Matts posts, and from what he told me when I enquired, I understand the fee covers him flying out to look at the car, inspecting it, and negotiating a ripper deal on the price. He will then buy the car, with your money. Some of the savings he has shown, are often as much as the inspection fee itself.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: jmd1 on March 05, 2010, 11:04:26 pm
Matt charged me $925 from memory but the vehicle was delivered to him, he checked it over sent me a sh.te load of pics and sorted payment etc before I had time to get the cash to his account as cleared funds.
Spose we all have our own story.
So far alls good even with the shipping time.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: KEVLYN on March 05, 2010, 11:10:39 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 68pony
Quote
Originally posted by KEVLYN
This is a copy of the estimate custom clearance from Freightnet the total amount was a bit more, and to answer BLKPNY, yes i saw the car on ebay and had Matt inspect it for me  

I'm not having a dig here just would like clarification, you say you found the car on ebay? did you bid and win the car? did shermat inspect the car before bidding? did you pay the seller direct or did shermat pay for you? Again i'm not having a dig just need to know the facts as i think $2080 for inspection fee is abit steep ,am i missing something? your post is not real clear on that fee maybe shermat can clarify, again please i'm not having a dig, im getting a car shipped at the moment(hasn't left yet) through somebody else, i havn't discused shipping with them yet but i think i should after reading this post, ive spoken to a few people that have shipped in lots of car's but use a local shipper here in aus and have paid $3500au but that included all the unloading fees here ,all they paid on top was gst and aqis.
cheers chris
Shermatt's fee is $2000.00 AU (check his site out for fee structure) he also charged $80.00 AU for an inspection, i am just letting you know the total cost to me, i saw the Chevelle on US ebay,  Matt did the inspection and payed a $500US deposit for me to hold the car, i then payed Matt the deposit back and payed for the car via bank deposit, Matt then provides all contacts for transport interstate and shipping, when the car arrives at shipping company i had to deal with them direct to facilitate the transportation, when it arrived in Australia i was contacted by the customs agent and i dealt with them direct and payed all relevant clearances and GST, hope this clarifies things
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: mustang-jerry on March 05, 2010, 11:13:31 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 68pony
Quote
Originally posted by mustang-jerry
:( spot on USA289

I think everyone has a different idea on what shipping car's should include,main one that i hate
being included is the inspection fee's no one should buy a car without one.
 

Mate I'm not trying to start a slanging match, it was a serious question , i would not buy a car without a inspection but $2080 sounds steep , i just want to know what else that fee included , the other post on the same subject stated his inspection fee was $171, I'm not having a go at shernat but this thread is a bit misleading , as i stated when shermat gets a chance I'm sure he will answer the question.
cheers


Sorry it was not in reference to the fee charged i was meaning i normally include it in the price of the car  when working out the shipping cost. I'm sure Matt can explain the charge when he wakes up.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 68pony on March 05, 2010, 11:14:22 pm
Quote
Originally posted by BLKPNY
From reading a few of Matts posts, and from what he told me when I enquired, I understand the fee covers him flying out to look at the car, inspecting it, and negotiating a ripper deal on the price. He will then buy the car, with your money. Some of the savings he has shown, are often as much as the inspection fee itself.

Ok this thread states , He found it on ebay , so where is the barganing ,seeing the car was land freighted from florida , isnt that where shermat runs his show, there are to many different stories out there on what shipping costs and at the end of the day they have us by the short and curlys, to many people here to scared to say what they feel cause it might up set some one, at the end of the day its your hard earn, if you want to throw it away so be it.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: mustang-jerry on March 05, 2010, 11:17:16 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Rock65
Quote
Originally posted by mustang-Jerry
Quote
Originally posted by Rock65
And JMD1 you must be on the same boat as me as my car has been in Long Beach since the 5Th of December also and had the same story about titles and paper work BS.


Can i ask who is shipping the car for you???
Yep going with Schumacher's,just about ready to fly over and see if my car exists. Getting sick of excuses.


Sorry to here that i would jump on a plane or ask for a refund and move it to another shipper.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: KEVLYN on March 05, 2010, 11:19:13 pm
Quote
Originally posted by BLKPNY
From reading a few of Matts posts, and from what he told me when I enquired, I understand the fee covers him flying out to look at the car, inspecting it, and negotiating a ripper deal on the price. He will then buy the car, with your money. Some of the savings he has shown, are often as much as the inspection fee itself.


I chose that particular Chevelle because it was in easy driving distance for Matt, he said it was about an hours drive, he saw the car and was very happy with it, called me back and told me transfer the money asap as he had placed a deposit on it, the asking price was $14950.00US this is exactly what i payed. Matt did not (in this instance) try to get a better price, he told me it was well worth the money so he did not negotiate the price, again, it is really not about the cost of the car, it is to let people know a total cost of importing yourself, hope this clears things
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: jmd1 on March 05, 2010, 11:19:13 pm
[[/quote]Shermatt's fee is $2000.00 AU (check his site out for fee structure) he also charged $80.00 AU for an inspection, i am just letting you know the total cost to me, i saw the Chevelle on US ebay,  Matt did the inspection and payed a $500US deposit for me to hold the car, i then payed Matt the deposit back and payed for the car via bank deposit, Matt then provides all contacts for transport interstate and shipping, when the car arrives at shipping company i had to deal with them direct to facilitate the transportation, when it arrived in Australia i was contacted by the customs agent and i dealt with them direct and payed all relevant clearances and GST, hope this clarifies things [/quote]


Is there a problem with the car?
Are you unhappy with the cost of importing?
Could you have sorted transport arrangements?
I don't understand.
I'm happy even tho it has taken a bit.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 68pony on March 05, 2010, 11:22:33 pm
Quote
Originally posted by KEVLYN
Quote
Originally posted by BLKPNY
From reading a few of Matts posts, and from what he told me when I enquired, I understand the fee covers him flying out to look at the car, inspecting it, and negotiating a ripper deal on the price. He will then buy the car, with your money. Some of the savings he has shown, are often as much as the inspection fee itself.


I chose that particular Chevelle because it was in easy driving distance for Matt, he said it was about an hours drive, he saw the car and was very happy with it, called me back and told me transfer the money asap as he had placed a deposit on it, the asking price was $14950.00US this is exactly what i payed. Matt did not (in this instance) try to get a better price, he told me it was well worth the money so he did not negotiate the price, again, it is really not about the cost of the car, it is to let people know a total cost of importing yourself, hope this clears things

Wow it does clear things up, thanks.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Rock65 on March 05, 2010, 11:23:07 pm
Quote
Originally posted by mustang-jerry
Quote
Originally posted by Rock65
Quote
Originally posted by mustang-Jerry
Quote
Originally posted by Rock65
And JMD1 you must be on the same boat as me as my car has been in Long Beach since the 5Th of December also and had the same story about titles and paper work BS.


Can i ask who is shipping the car for you???
Yep going with Schumacher's,just about ready to fly over and see if my car exists. Getting sick of excuses.


Sorry to here that i would jump on a plane or ask for a refund and move it to another shipper.
Being new to importing do you think this is a possibility. Mikes68 car left LA after mine arrived and is is in his garage in WA already and mine is still in the states.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: jmd1 on March 05, 2010, 11:26:50 pm
Rock
Send them an email and a serve it worked for me .
Do it tonight by Tuesday you should have a kneejerk all going well.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: KEVLYN on March 05, 2010, 11:27:06 pm

Is there a problem with the car?
Are you unhappy with the cost of importing?
Could you have sorted transport arrangements?
I don't understand.
I'm happy even tho it has taken a bit.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 68pony on March 05, 2010, 11:35:53 pm

Don't worry mate you have done nothing wrong in my books but state the facts regarding your purchase, but at the end of the day did you know shermats fee before you committed  if so .then so be it, still think its abit steep, but thats only my opinion.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: mustang-jerry on March 05, 2010, 11:36:27 pm

Mine left long beach on the 11/01/2010 and arrived here last week, It alway's depends if it's on a direct ship or via china as mine was.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: djc on March 05, 2010, 11:36:41 pm

I can assure you mate you get more than $2K of value with Shermatt.  You don't just get an inspection like everyone else who don't give a rats about you afterwords.  There are so many scams going on re inspections (and one from memory who lurks on this forum from time to time quoting figures and promises)

Shermatt saved me well over their fee cost as well as all the other running around for parts etc which I wasn't charged for.

I could go on and on about it but I don't have to justify my choice as it is self explanatory!

Oh and for shipping, im not too scared to say what it cost me from LA to Melb as it was around $1550US which is pretty bloody good!
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: rocket on March 05, 2010, 11:39:55 pm
The Mach1 Purchase -

This car was in Shermatts mailing list for $18k. We were happy to pay that amount for the car.

Matt flew to South Carolina and rented a car to go and inspect the Mach1.

He conducted a thorough inspection, took about 50 photos and then rang jeremy to give an opinion and seek further instructions.

Jeremy gave Matt the all clear to negotiate a price with the seller. Matt negotiated the price of $15k! Well done Matt.

Matt organised payment of the car and even took a Video of the money being handed over.
He then organised Transporting the car to the Shipping Company in Los angeles.

It ended up costing us slightly less than the original $18k, which included Matt`s Fee landed in Los Angeles.

So a GREAT BIG THANKYOU to Matt.

Rocket.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: KEVLYN on March 05, 2010, 11:46:36 pm
I DID KNOW SHERMATT'S FEE FROM THE BEGINNING, I WAS A BIT SHOCKED AT THE TOTAL IT COST ALL UP, I WAS AWARE OF THE GST ON THE PURCHASE AND SHIPPING BUT THE TRANSPORT COSTS AND CUSTOMS CLEARANCE WAS WELL ABOVE WHAT I EXPECTED, I DID ASK MATT VERY EARLY IF HE COULD PROVIDE ME WITH A TOTAL COST BUT HE DIDN'T, THE DEAL HAPPENED VERY FAST, I HAVE LEARNED A FEW THING FROM THIS AND I WOULD DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY NEXT TIME, REGARDS KEV
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: rocket on March 06, 2010, 12:07:28 am

Very sad to hear of the shipping delays being experienced by some members. We had the same problem a few years back. It is very annoying.

Our Shipper of choice is now Titan International Shipping. The going cost to ship a car is $1550 + Insurance of 2%. Our last car needed degassing of the Air Cond, which brought the total cost to 1,900 USD.

Titan use the Direct Ship. We received Import Approval for the Grande on 30th November and the car arrived in Melbourne on the 26th December.

Upon arrival in Melbourne it cost $1650 AUD + GST.

Can`t get better service than that!

Rocket.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: hybrid on March 06, 2010, 12:47:20 am
The thing that I think a few guys are missing about Matts fee is that it's not an "inspection" fee.

I classed Matts service as more of a "finders" fee.
If you're already stuck on a car that you want, then maybe Matts full service is not for you.

Matts service fee is for finding you a car.. inspecting it, taking plenty of photos etc... if you don't like it, he will look for another one for you. When you have found a car you like, he will negotiate the price for you and hopefully save you more than he charges. After that, he organises everything for you to get the car to Aus.

Having dealt with him for my car (which was very freakin cheap), and having seen him work for other guys on here, it's safe to say the guy is a workaholic.

So I think when we throw about Matts service fee, it's important to understand what it's about, and to keep it in context. Considering the time and money he is saving you, compared to you having to go overseas and do it all yourself, I think the fee is quite reasonable.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: scedd on March 06, 2010, 07:36:52 am
In my opinion Matt is a "buyers agent" and the service he provides for his fee is a bargain
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: soc123_au on March 06, 2010, 08:44:37 am
I am not sure if KEVLYN is being interpreted correctly. I dont think he is having a dig at Matt, more just stating what it ended up costing landed. I know when I bought mine the figure I had shelled out by the time it was home was more than I bargained for. I organised all the shipping etc myself so I dont really know what I expected it to cost, it was just more than I had hoped. Had I have been smart enough to have found his forum before I bought the car I think Matt would have got the job & I reckon I would have come out better off. Instead once the car was all organised I then found the forum:+

In my case - Pile of rust $9200.00US,exch rate was around 81c at the time. It owed me about $19500.00AU in my driveway. Plus about 5k worth of parts dissapeared & another $1250.00 US to ship the parts that didnt dissapear. The pencil that picked it up from Texas only took the body & not the boxes of parts/engine etc. Hindsight is a curse:w
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: kiwi69 on March 06, 2010, 09:12:40 am
Guys, Kevlyn is just explaining to people what true and actual costs are involved in getting a car to AUS.  As far as I can see that is it - nothing more nothing less!!
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 68pony on March 06, 2010, 09:17:07 am
All my comments have been directed to this thread only, kevlyn states that he found the car not shermatt and he asked if mat could inspect the car,which was 1 hour away, car was advertised for 14,950 and thats what kevlyn paid, yes i know that shermat organised to have the car picked up and payed the seller for kevlyn , but i have done the exact same thing in california using  another respected  person on this forum, same deal, car was 1 hour away , car was advertised for 16,000(not a mustang) he inspected the car,  could only knock off 250 bucks , but its a real nice car, he even put the deposit down for me before i had given him any money , i sent the money to him and he went and paid the seller and had the tilt truck pick up the car at the same time, he organised to have the car taken to the docks aswell,
all in all a very stress free transaction, and how much did i pay for him to do this,this is a list of my costs on the usa side not including the costs on this side all money is in aussie dollars, this is a quote from his email to me regarding costs from his end.
$2800 shipping,freight,custom clearance in usa +$100 vaseline
$175 flatbed collection of car
$580 for me to go twice ,1 to inspect,2nd to go pay etc
=$3655.00
The gentlmans name is KEN , THANK YOU KEN!  for a pleasant stress free transaction, the paint and chrome on the car is very nice so i opted for the vaseline coat on the car.
hope this helps anyone calculate costs on shipping a car.
cheers chris

Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 68pony on March 06, 2010, 09:57:27 am
I forgot to mention that inspection  fee that ken charged also included the the car i bought on ebay, which ken inspected and turned out to be nothing like the seller said, ken saved my arse before puting funds into the sellers account.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: djc on March 06, 2010, 10:20:57 am
Quote
Originally posted by 68pony
I forgot to mention that inspection  fee that ken charged also included the the car i bought on ebay, which ken inspected and turned out to be nothing like the seller said, ken saved my arse before puting funds into the sellers account.


Sounds like the type of service that Shermatt supplies.  Matt save me more than his fee cost in the whole deal, money well spent!!  Not to mention that he said that if I didn't like the car after he purchased it for me that he would take it on-board himself and find me something else!  MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!!!

Not taking anything away from other exporters people use, but this sealed the deal for me - I couldnt lose!:(
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: usa289 on March 06, 2010, 10:21:33 am

Hey Chris,

So are you saying the total cost from the car being received at your US port to being cleared and ready for pick up in AU is only $2900 (including Vaseline). Is that US dollars?? Which Aussie port? Slow boat or fast boat? What is/was the delivery time? And there were no additional charges?
Cheers,
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 66RedRagtop on March 06, 2010, 11:07:49 am
All this vaseline is a worry.

Next import, think I'll send someone to collect.

Alerting them no matter what............

Don't bend over.  :*
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: donoauto on March 06, 2010, 11:18:50 am

That`s what I was thinking :w:w:w:w:w:w:w:w
Imagine the looks you`d get rocking up to the checkout with ya shopping trolly with a $100 bucks worth   :w;2;_
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Rock65 on March 06, 2010, 11:23:23 am
 Sent an email last nite .Car arrives on the 11th of April.YEEEE HAH!!!!!!!
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 66FBK on March 06, 2010, 11:27:29 am
At the end of the day you pay for what you get. Shermatt seems to have a good reputation around this forum and I would class as a blue ribbon service. If I was buying or looking for a top shelf car without the risks and hassles, I would deal with Matt. I choose California Image in Brisbane, after they were recommended, and was real pleased with the $3400 all included deal. I was lucky enough to talk directly to the truck driver while quoting on the transport of the car. He confirm the car was OK and it was all good. That was my gamble. If it was a $20K car I would have had it inspected. The only other fees were the GST of the purchase price in $A + GST the $3400 shipping (say $1600 GST) and $500 US local transport the the California Image yard in CA .So all up $5800 door to door in 5 weeks. I was pretty happy with that.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 68pony on March 06, 2010, 11:44:10 am

all prices quoted in aussie dollars to sydney does not include unloading fees or all the charges we get slammed with once it gets here, good question about the slow boat,fast boat, not sure, 1st time for me.

As for the vaseline , I'M GREEK :w:w:w:w :f
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 68pony on March 06, 2010, 12:22:42 pm

Just found out its going on the fast boat
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Pedro on March 06, 2010, 01:37:19 pm
Hey Chris, my '70 Mach 1 is due later this month and because of the shocking weather in California, it has also been coated in Vaseline.
I'm told that the usual car wash detergents get it off. What's your take on this advice?
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: ponyride on March 06, 2010, 01:41:35 pm
Chris was the vaseline coat required because it was shipped on open decks ? (ie to protect from seaspray/elements).
If that's the case and it's not a mint car it would be a good way of saving on shipping costs. How did you get the stuff off again?
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Shermatt on March 06, 2010, 01:42:38 pm
Just thought Id throw some snaps up of this car in question.

Yes, our fee is $2000AUD and we were looking for a 70-71 Chevelle for Kev for close to a month. We had seen the 72 but it was not what Kev was looking for (he wanted a 70-71) We didnt even email it to him due to that criteria, however, even though most of the cars we sent Kev he also sent a few that he found for our opinion (ebay)

Secondly, the car was so underpriced, it had SCAM...written all over it....was waaaaayyy to CHEAP
one of those to good to be true kinda deals.

Kevs budget was $20-22,000USD for a good clean driver/restored car.

After Kev gave us the go ahead on a 72 model, we dropped what we were doing as the auction was a buy it now thing and the guy selling it said there was a fella driving up from Miami first thing in the morning

Sheri said that its about an hour drive from memory (been a while since shed been there) turned out just under 2 hours (so be it) only charged $80 to cover fuel (left at 9 got back at 2.30pm)

The guy from Miami was bringing the full amount in CASH ($14,950) seeing as the car was worth at least $27k it was a no brainer. The owner of the car had dumped close to $40k into the car and had pawned it off for $15,000 but did not collect the car and the pawn broker was just collecting his $15k back. There was no way I was going to try and haggle this fella knowing that I could sell this car for $22k the next day and it was under $7000 what Kev was prepared to spend.

Just the billet pulley set up on this car was worth $2800US, big block TV's DVD's subs amps stereo, 4 wheel disc, independant rear.... the car was OFF ITS FACE for the money and in my opinion.....YOU COULDNT GET ANY BETTER ..."BANG FOR YOUR BUCK" if you tried

Its the ONLY car I have ever paid the EXACT purchase price

but pics can tell a thousand words

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/DSC08286.jpg)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/DSC08262.jpg)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/DSC08258.jpg)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/DSC08277.jpg)


As for customs and GST, Im not a customs agent fellas...I can calculate it pretty close but its only an estimate. Over the next few weeks when I find some time I will be updating the website with exact costings and examples for all to see so theres no surprises....just waiting on djc to send me some scans of his most recent import so its fact and not fiction

As for our fee of $2000AUD. Only those who have used our services can comment on that as there the ones that benefit from that


Advertised for $27,999....Purchased for $18,000 (kindly delivered to LA by Ozbilt...thanks mate)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/Feb22010007.jpg)



I could be here all day posting pictures but Ive had a long day

Hope your enjoying that Chevelle Kev
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Shermatt on March 06, 2010, 02:09:41 pm
Been meaning to update our site but I just thought Id add

I ve been hearing here and there about a few of our cars hitting China/Asia a few weeks back and long shipping times.

After having a few words with Shcumacher, they notified me that 2 of our cars where shipped on the slow boats...it was either get em on the water and on the way or not at all...for that, I appolagise

I also discussed shipping times and PRICES. (based on consolidation of other cars going to the same destination)

As of now, shipping from LA to

Melbourne or Sydney is $1350USD through Shermatt
Adelaide or Freo/WA is $1750USD through Shermatt (based on a 3 car load)

Rates are based on direct service with Hamburg Sud ( there is no faster service than this )

Hope that helps

PS...ROCK65, fantastic news mate
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Pedro on March 06, 2010, 02:21:22 pm

Hi Rick,
My car arriving later this month is also coated in Vaseline.
It has been raining in CA for weeks and my guy was concerned that being locked in a container with humid air for a month, including crossing the Equator could promote "humidity bubbles" in the paint. That's the reason for the Vaseline.

A car would be stuffed if it was shipped on open decks.
PS. Check my U2U
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Rock65 on March 06, 2010, 02:22:23 pm
Matt ,i realise that the shipping time is out of your control. That has been my biggest beef up till now. Maybe i should hit up Shumachers for the extra $600usd that i paid above your new price of $1750. If the car had arrived in 5 weeks i would not have an issue with the shipping fee, but 4 months just to get on the boat is poor service from them as far as i am concerned. They have offered me a discount on my next import(if i decide to import again) Rohan. Ps: Do you know where the floida no  plate ended up?
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 68pony on March 06, 2010, 03:17:31 pm

As above, i'm not sure but ill let you know when i find out, ah well some good news to come out of this thread , cheaper shipping through shermat  now :(
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Pedro on March 06, 2010, 03:22:06 pm
Wow! That's a super clean Olds.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: jmd1 on March 06, 2010, 04:01:34 pm
Rock  good to hear. Mine is due Brisbane 28/3.
Chris that is one very nice looking cruiser.
Good onya Matt, you did tell me from the start that it would take longer to get it up here than if it were to go to Sydney or Melbourne.
Anyone that knows me would know why I would be hesitant to put another car on a truck. It cost a bit more for direct and took a bit longer, not a problem. Schumackers are the weak link, they don't tell you anything until you feel you have to ask.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: djc on March 06, 2010, 04:05:35 pm
Personally I never had any trouble with Schumachers.  I would ring and get an answer!

Emails are a waste of time.  Pick up the phone and speak to a person, get your self a contact there and your set!
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Macka on March 06, 2010, 11:01:11 pm
I too have used Matt's advice and used Schumachers to get a car back to Australia.  They have been very professional and the car arrived without damage and didn't need further cleaning.  Both times I have imported, I have been and viewed the cars myself and dropped them off.  Truly, it is the best way and worth the trip.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: ponyride on March 06, 2010, 11:27:35 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Shermatt
Just thought Id throw some snaps up of this car in question.

Yes, our fee is $2000AUD and we were looking for a 70-71 Chevelle for Kev for close to a month. We had seen the 72 but it was not what Kev was looking for (he wanted a 70-71) We didnt even email it to him due to that criteria, however, even though most of the cars we sent Kev he also sent a few that he found for our opinion (ebay)

Secondly, the car was so underpriced, it had SCAM...written all over it....was waaaaayyy to CHEAP
one of those to good to be true kinda deals.

Kevs budget was $20-22,000USD for a good clean driver/restored car.

After Kev gave us the go ahead on a 72 model, we dropped what we were doing as the auction was a buy it now thing and the guy selling it said there was a fella driving up from Miami first thing in the morning

Sheri said that its about an hour drive from memory (been a while since shed been there) turned out just under 2 hours (so be it) only charged $80 to cover fuel (left at 9 got back at 2.30pm)

The guy from Miami was bringing the full amount in CASH ($14,950) seeing as the car was worth at least $27k it was a no brainer. The owner of the car had dumped close to $40k into the car and had pawned it off for $15,000 but did not collect the car and the pawn broker was just collecting his $15k back. There was no way I was going to try and haggle this fella knowing that I could sell this car for $22k the next day and it was under $7000 what Kev was prepared to spend.

Just the billet pulley set up on this car was worth $2800US, big block TV's DVD's subs amps stereo, 4 wheel disc, independant rear.... the car was OFF ITS FACE for the money and in my opinion.....YOU COULDNT GET ANY BETTER ..."BANG FOR YOUR BUCK" if you tried

Its the ONLY car I have ever paid the EXACT purchase price

but pics can tell a thousand words

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/DSC08286.jpg)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/DSC08262.jpg)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/DSC08258.jpg)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/DSC08277.jpg)


As for customs and GST, Im not a customs agent fellas...I can calculate it pretty close but its only an estimate. Over the next few weeks when I find some time I will be updating the website with exact costings and examples for all to see so theres no surprises....just waiting on djc to send me some scans of his most recent import so its fact and not fiction

As for our fee of $2000AUD. Only those who have used our services can comment on that as there the ones that benefit from that


Advertised for $27,999....Purchased for $18,000 (kindly delivered to LA by Ozbilt...thanks mate)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/Feb22010007.jpg)


I could be here all day posting pictures but Ive had a long day

Hope your enjoying that Chevelle Kev


You live and learn - haven't heard of the vaso trick before, nor the blistering potential. Anxious wait for me now!
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: KEVLYN on March 17, 2010, 08:13:59 pm

i only got the Chevelle 2 days ago the 15th March 2010, the explanation you give above is a little different from my recollection, the car was LO2'd today and i tried to roadworthy it, to my dismay they found extensive rust in the underbody, i got a quote and it would need the interior stripped to complete the repair and an estimated cost of $5000 AU, i am a bit disappointed as i did ask you to inspect the car and payed the appropriate fee's, yes the car looks great in photos but everyone knows a glossy paint job just is not enough, i did not receive a detailed report from you but did ask if the car was what you expected, you replied with a very positive note, obviously you did not get under the car or put it on a hoist to view the underside, there is extensive rust near the rear wheel wells and fiberglass used to patch floor pans,  i know many people have used your service and are very happy, i just dont know how you cloud have missed such a poor patch up job if you did the inspections that you claim in your web site, regards Kev
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Rock65 on March 17, 2010, 08:41:34 pm
No comment until the 7th of April ,when my car arrives from Florida.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: rattusrex on March 17, 2010, 09:05:55 pm
Oops! This will be interesting. Someone's halo appears to have slipped. Eddie
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: rickchampion on March 17, 2010, 09:51:42 pm
KEVLYN,
I feel your pain trust me
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: nhmustang on March 17, 2010, 11:18:45 pm
People, as i have said before. BUY THEM IN AUSTRALIA!! (that way YOU the buyer can inspect it and make the FINAL decision). There's plenty out there for sale. :(
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Shermatt on March 17, 2010, 11:37:38 pm
Kev, can you email me a pic of what your talking about

Matt
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: KEVLYN on March 18, 2010, 09:06:40 am
Gday Matt, when i get the interior stripped out i will take some pics of the damage.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Shermatt on March 18, 2010, 09:24:15 am
can you email me the pic of what the under chassis looks like where your talking about?
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: 6pakdave on March 18, 2010, 12:05:00 pm

 $5K wow thats some underbody rust repair bill. You diddnt check yourself before sending it out for a RWC?

 
later  Dave

 
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: non member on March 18, 2010, 12:16:42 pm
Please

Will the people that have issues, talk to the various parties by email & not an open forum where things get misconstrued.

All those discussing this, that do not have first hand knowledge of what is going on please refrain from posting. It is not doing this forum any good by speculating on innuendo.

Sorry, but as someone who gets to see both sides of the stories (not only the ones being discussed here on this forum) & has seen many difficult situations end up badly because of others not knowing what is going on, I would like to see it stop here.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Frank70 on March 18, 2010, 12:21:22 pm
Is the car structurally unsafe  ?

If not, then go for a 2nd inspection - pick a regional LO2 centre , book an appointment last thing Friday arvo before a long weekend. you never know your luck !
Worked for me in Vic (not that there was anything much wrong with my car), but I am getting the impression the other states are stricter.
Of course you could get a 2nd opinion on the repair.
Sorry to see what happened, but if it is a genuine SS big block , then you still got a good deal.

Good luck !
cheers,
Frank.

Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: non member on March 18, 2010, 12:24:47 pm
I give up... :_

Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: HEVEN67 on March 18, 2010, 02:57:45 pm
Im with Kerry on this one and Im sick of reading all the crap that goes on when someone buys a cheapie from the USA!
You buy it cheap you got "CHEAP"! if youda bought it for top dollar youd be peed, but everyones interpratation differs, and all whom dabble in the motor trade will admitt that its a cut throat game for the unwary, sometimes but very rearly you get a bargain but most of the time if its too good to be true it is!
And the only advise I can give is deal with someone you can trust, and if it turns out you get mud on your face, blame yourself cause you trusted them in the first place.
No one came to the rescue when I got ripped, I just had to wear it, could be worse you know!
Ooohhh and welcome to the motor trade!
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Frank70 on March 18, 2010, 03:09:52 pm
Sorry, I was only offering a suggestion (albeit a little tongue in cheek).

I was not commenting on who was or wasn't to blame. In this case it seems the car looked to be the real deal but wasn't. I think both parties acted in good faith.

This is why it is called a forum. I dont like when these issues turn nasty, but if nothing it can give others who are contemplating importing a car some insight into the various pros and cons.

Cheers,
Frank.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: usa289 on March 18, 2010, 03:50:01 pm
I certainly concur with Kerry, Frank and Hev'n .....  

Althought not a frequent contributor, I am a "daily watcher". This forum is to share our experiences and learnings and whilst this should be positively encouraged,  it must be stressed by administration - and respected by all members -  that personal comments will not be tolerated and should be conducted in absolute privacy and outside this forum.

There has been too many instances lately of these occurrences and it has certainly affected the good nature and vibrancy of all who contribute to the Mustang commmunity - and others - who read and/or actively contribute to this great Mustang medium.  
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: shaunp on March 18, 2010, 04:39:16 pm
Guys, these things are old cars, most of them are stuffed, or have been tarted up to some extent. You can't expect them to be concours unless you pay concours money. You can't expect a good paint job for 5k try 15k to 20 for example on a tidy car, at $65 an hour these things cost good money to get right, if you're paying some one to do the work. I don't buy shiney old cars unless I look at them myself. Try and find a good HR holden, they are all stuffed, it's no different. I think the good Cali cars have pretty much dried up from what I see people buying.  It seems these days a lot of guys want a turn key car, and this is either dangerous or expensive take your pick. This is not a cheap hobby if you can't do the work yourself.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Bumblebee on March 18, 2010, 05:19:07 pm
Quote
Originally posted by HEVEN67
Ooohhh and welcome to the motor trade!
;y

Yeah, and let's get back to a little fun eh!! (http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc102/GT66US/avatar21198_2.gif)

Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Horselover on March 18, 2010, 06:07:00 pm
I'm with Bee!:f

Where can I get some of that fun?:+

Cheers,
Warwick:f
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Cage on March 18, 2010, 06:13:38 pm
Nice one Bee. Count me in.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: BLKPNY on March 18, 2010, 06:16:07 pm
It's horses for courses...

I would be confident of buying a car, and being able to fix up whatever needs doing, without issue, as I can either do it myself, or know people who do.

I wouldn't try building a PC. I have friends tell me all the time, how they built this super duper computer, or knocked up a cool website, for a few $$. I wouldn't try, because I don't know how, or who.

People hear of how someone build a cool car cheap, but unless you have the contacts, or skills, it isn't for everyone to contemplate.
You can't put $$ limits, or time limits, on a car build.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: IGALOP on March 18, 2010, 06:53:59 pm
Buy locally after inspecting thoroughly.
Nothing against those that ship them here, but sight unseen purchases, are disasters waiting to happen IMO:(
And Bee, she has a nice hat!:+:+
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Red 66 on March 18, 2010, 07:04:59 pm

 Hat, What hat ??? :f
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Foresight on March 18, 2010, 07:06:03 pm
This hat

[img=200x200]http://rlv.zcache.com/nice_boobs_hat-p148851033502637085qz14_400.jpg[/img]
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Red 66 on March 18, 2010, 07:07:20 pm

 :( GOLD :(
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: moe on March 18, 2010, 08:53:42 pm
Nice find Foresight!  Not one from your collection??:f
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: DOZE-6015 on March 18, 2010, 09:28:08 pm

My eye's are out of focus from that one Bee.
Lee is there anyone looking over your shoulder........??????
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: rattusrex on March 18, 2010, 10:05:17 pm
I think some of you may have missed the point. Firstly a forum, as defined by the Oxford English Dictionary, is a place for discussion. Some people, for their own reasons, are trying to shut the discussion down. Secondly, and more importantly, Kevlyn paid money for an inspection, rather like a pre purchase inspection available from say the NRMA, and if you charge money for a service then you should be accountable. When you attempt to stifle discussion or free speech, then you have a situation where anything goes. Attributed to Voltaire "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Eddie
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: non member on March 18, 2010, 10:19:55 pm
Hi Eddie,

No I did not miss the point or do I want to stifle discussion. What I was saying was if a person does not have first hand information on the subject, then stay out of it.

Your point of pre-purchase inspection is a good case in point. If you were not there at the time listening or watching, or the one making the agreement, you would not know what transpired. So that would place you in the same category as me, one that does not have all the facts & any assumptions made, would be hearsay.

It may be a simple case of miscommunication, but that is not for me to say.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: fordtj69 on March 18, 2010, 10:27:41 pm
hey the old saying there always two sides to the story :-
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Rock65 on March 18, 2010, 10:32:38 pm
If you find someone who provides a good service you let the forum know, if you find someone who provides a poor service.....same same.......
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: rickchampion on March 18, 2010, 10:40:47 pm

+1 big time ;y
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Foresight on March 19, 2010, 02:37:41 am
Eddie,

Firstly, let me outline the topic of this public forum.
The main topic of this forum is Mustangs. There are also relevant and non-contentious subtopics including Forum Chat, Self Promotion, Classifieds, etc. There is no subtopic titled "Personal Disputes" because personal disputes are considered contentious and off-topic. If you read the rules of this forum it clearly states that posting contentious off-topic comments is forbidden. These rules are not there to stifle free speech; they are actually there to enable it by preventing irrelevant comments and topics from interfering. Parties involved in personal conflicts are more than welcome to speak freely about their disputes off the public forum.

Secondly, what you are saying about being accountable for a service is completely correct. I also believe the outcome of this dispute should be openly discussed, as it is relevant to members looking to import Mustangs. However, the discussions that take place to arrive at an outcome are irrelevant and should be kept off the public forum until it has been settled. People chiming in with half-truths and second hand information does not help. As Voltaire said "a witty saying proves nothing ".
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Shermatt on March 19, 2010, 08:38:53 am
When Kev gets a chance Im sure he will be able to email me the area of concern.
Didnt charge Kev for a full inspection but $80 to cover fuel there and back to make sure it was the real deal and not a scam and put a deposit on it using Sheri's Paypal.

I pay Ozbilt $220 to inspect cars for me in Cali when hes close by

If the area was covered or hidden, how is anyone going to see it. (which I normally can spot)

All the area's that I could see were photographed along with the small areas that I found whilst checking the car over and emailed to Kev. If hes found something whilst its up on a hoist with a guy digging around with a screw driver, so be it. The car is 40 years old and......?

Some fellas over here spend more time trying hide something on a car than actually just doing it properly in the first place to save a buck.

Ive bought cars for myself and once I get it home and really start digging around you realise theres a few concerns but you deal with it. Got it for a good price, so I move on.

Dont think Kevs havin a crack but he never emailed me about it so all this is news to me

Once the spots are fixed Im sure she will be a tidy unit and still under his original budget
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Frank70 on March 19, 2010, 01:19:19 pm
Yeah this is an interesting one.

I would have liked one day to go over to the US and buy a nice car - maybe at an auction. But after seeing this , going there is no guarantee of not picking something with problems.
If this one got past Matt, then it would have got past me too. No offence to Matt.

The other weird thing about it is why you would spend so much $$$ on it if the floors were patched big time.

but I think this will be a nice car after it is sorted and still be fairly well priced.

Cheers,
Frank.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Foresight on March 19, 2010, 01:40:25 pm
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Originally posted by Frank70
The other weird thing about it is why you would spend so much $$$ on it if the floors were patched big time.


Don't know and don't care but I'd like to know the final outcome after it is all settled privately.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Frank70 on March 19, 2010, 02:22:00 pm
Yeah, but unlike some of the more recent dramas, at least this with one the comments from both parties were calm and measured.

Just my 2c.

Cheers,
Frank.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Foresight on March 19, 2010, 02:38:59 pm
Its easier and more productive if all private disputes are sorted out off the forum. There is no benefit in having people with no or limited knowledge of the situation making comments.
Like i said the outcome is what should be discussed. If the outcome is derived from a private cat fight or a private civil discussion that can be discussed on the forum after the event.
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Brett_T on March 25, 2010, 05:57:12 pm
Just wondering where this one ended up.. was the car as bad as 1st made out.. or ??
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: jmd1 on March 25, 2010, 06:35:28 pm
Time.:(...locust:(
Brett check email.;2
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: rattusrex on March 25, 2010, 09:44:49 pm

+1
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Shermatt on March 25, 2010, 11:55:44 pm
Kev hasnt contacted me at all
Title: A Few Notes about Shipping
Post by: Brett_T on March 26, 2010, 06:25:37 am
Guess it must have been ok then..:-
Title: Re: A Few Notes about Shipping
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