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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1200 on: April 15, 2016, 01:46:30 pm »

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1201 on: April 15, 2016, 01:48:46 pm »
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1202 on: April 15, 2016, 01:49:35 pm »
So it got water into the sump/ pan  :thud:   So fresh oil and filter needed .

Hey, try simply bailing it out with one of these . I think 500 gallons per hour should be enough.  :thumb:


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1203 on: April 15, 2016, 01:51:20 pm »
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oops...I forgot to include the wiring diagram.  :smile01:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1204 on: April 15, 2016, 01:59:04 pm »
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If you are on a budget you could try the hand model . A big strong guy like you that can easily turn over a used v8 engine with no plugs in it by hand shouldn't have  problem pumping it.  :bolt:


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1205 on: April 15, 2016, 02:17:39 pm »
So it got water into the sump/ pan  :thud:   So fresh oil and filter needed .

Yep, happy days..  :thud:  :thumbdown:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1206 on: April 15, 2016, 02:19:25 pm »
Hey, try simply bailing it out with one of these . I think 500 gallons per hour should be enough.  :thumb:




Pump it straight onto the driveway...  :bolt:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1207 on: April 15, 2016, 02:23:02 pm »

Pump it straight onto the driveway...  :bolt:

ummm...you already did that...TWICE . Or aren't you counting the 10 liters of gas you used to try to wash the oil ff with? :lmao:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1208 on: April 15, 2016, 02:52:03 pm »
ummm...you already did that...TWICE . Or aren't you counting the 10 liters of gas you used to try to wash the oil ff with? :lmao:

Trying to give Deepwater Horizon a run for it's money...  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1209 on: April 15, 2016, 02:57:44 pm »
Alright,

Looks like i fk'd up with the intake install..

There's a pool of milky grey oil at the back of the intake valley and where the rtv sits on the china wall.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1210 on: April 15, 2016, 03:01:13 pm »
Alright,

Looks like i fk'd up with the intake install..

There's a pool of milky grey oil at the back of the intake valley and where the rtv sits on the china wall.

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that does not mean anything.

dont take the gasket or any silicone off.

take photos where i told you plus take some of the 4 corners of the intake and the end where the silicone was used for an end seal . you can put it on a box or hang th ends off a work bench one at a time to get these.

clean then photograph the distributor gear also.





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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1211 on: April 15, 2016, 03:12:53 pm »
that does not mean anything.

dont take the gasket off.

take photos.

No point,

Parts of the gasket came off with the intake for some fkn reason..

There cactus, ill have to order new ones on Mon.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1212 on: April 15, 2016, 03:16:31 pm »
No point,

Parts of the gasket came off with the intake for some fkn reason..

There cactus, ill have to order new ones on Mon.

take the photos anyway . you dont know what i am looking for.

you also didn't give me the part number of the gaskets . the same gaskets may do the same thing.

dont take any silicone off either.

take photos where i told you plus take some of the 4 corners of the intake and the end where the silicone was used for an end seal . you can put it on a box or hang the ends off a work bench one at a time to get these.

clean then photograph the distributor gear also.





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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1213 on: April 15, 2016, 03:20:11 pm »
take the photos anyway . you dont know what i am looking for.


Welll, ummmm.

Because it ripped a heap of the gasket up.

I've already cleaned a lot of it off...  :thud:  :bolt:


I know, i know....

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1214 on: April 15, 2016, 03:27:47 pm »
better not get ANY of that gasket in the intake ports or the engine.



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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1215 on: April 15, 2016, 03:31:26 pm »
better not get ANY of that gasket in the intake ports or the engine.

Blocked all the ports and have rags etc covering everything else..

I used a small vac last time to suck the sh!t up as i was scraping it off

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1216 on: April 15, 2016, 03:44:20 pm »
Blocked all the ports and have rags etc covering everything else..

I used a small vac last time to suck the sh!t up as i was scraping it off

yes but you cant get it all . put newspaper in the valley also and tuck the edges under the head.

if the last gaskets were .060" thick, i wold use ones that are .090" etc.

you also need to torque them exactly, exactly how i said.



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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1217 on: April 15, 2016, 04:37:38 pm »
yes but you cant get it all . put newspaper in the valley also and tuck the edges under the head.

if the last gaskets were .060" thick, i wold use ones that are .090" etc.

you also need to torque them exactly, exactly how i said.

Gaskets were the right ones, Fel Pro 1262. Also had R3 on them.
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1218 on: April 15, 2016, 05:30:25 pm »
Even though it sounded like a tractor at least i got to hear it run for the first time in nearly 4 months.

And it didn't blow up !!!  :pepper: :lmao:

https://youtu.be/6vlqmU7uGHU

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1219 on: April 15, 2016, 05:35:53 pm »
Even though it sounded like a tractor at least i got to hear it run for the first time in nearly 4 months.

And it didn't blow up !!!  :pepper: :lmao:

https://youtu.be/6vlqmU7uGHU

ummm read my previous thread . video two is how it will idle with that cam . your timing was near perfect.

 

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1220 on: April 15, 2016, 05:54:53 pm »
ummm read my previous thread . video two is how it will idle with that cam . your timing was near perfect.

https://youtu.be/InQEJKeuckU


Ok, it's definitely a bit choppier than the old cam if that's the case.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1221 on: April 15, 2016, 06:10:34 pm »
https://youtu.be/InQEJKeuckU


Ok, it's definitely a bit choppier than the old cam if that's the case.

ummm, that is the case then .  it has a little more duration at .050" lift and steeper ramps and more lift than the other cam, so in effect, it has more overlap . i think you will be quite happy once you mash the gas pedal. :thumb:

after all, it is a "race car" is it not?  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1222 on: April 15, 2016, 06:15:33 pm »
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IS THAT WHAT YOU THOUGHT WAS BACKFIRING?

I STILL NEED THE CRANK DAMPER AND TIMING COVER PHOTOS.
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1223 on: April 15, 2016, 08:33:59 pm »

Hope it breaks down Geoff  :toetapping: :lmao:



It didn't. 50 something miles through the Dandenong Ranges with the windows down and the exhaust echoing off the hills. Great day out.

Checked the oil and water before I started it and they appeared to be quite separate. You should try that.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #1224 on: April 16, 2016, 05:52:41 am »
Checked the oil and water before I started it and they appeared to be quite separate. You should try that.

That comment is just inhumane.  :lmao: