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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #950 on: April 01, 2016, 11:49:45 am »
Ahhh, ok, I was going to ask you and boofhead what you guys use . The dry pen works killer and I can drive just 3 miles and get any of that stuff but apparently Fitzy is anti social so he lives in the outback where there isn't even a Mcdonalds or Roo Burger Express nearby.

Hey, i have a maccas 2ks away...  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #951 on: April 01, 2016, 12:29:24 pm »
Hey, i have a maccas 2ks away...  :lmao:

Sorry but you are in no position to attempt to be humorous at the moment .   :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #952 on: April 01, 2016, 01:40:45 pm »
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NEWS UPDATE

I have just been informed that Fitzy has now tried a 3rd type pen like a board marker and it still didn't work so he is now looking for a new house to buy that is closer to the city so he can get the parts he needs in less than 5 days since it even took his last overnight delivery 2 days to get there .  :lmao:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #953 on: April 01, 2016, 01:47:19 pm »

Wow, 9,702 voyers .

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #954 on: April 01, 2016, 02:43:39 pm »
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NEWS UPDATE

I have just been informed that Fitzy has now tried a 3rd type pen like a board marker and it still didn't work so he is now looking for a new house to buy that is closer to the city so he can get the parts he needs in less than 5 days since it even took his last overnight delivery 2 days to get there .  :lmao:

FML  :cry:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #955 on: April 01, 2016, 02:44:43 pm »
Wow, 9,702 voyers .

And to think they actually thought they would learn something....  :shrug:  :lol:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #956 on: April 01, 2016, 02:52:16 pm »
Alright,

After developing a sensational wife beater tan and numerous threats of physical violence against anyone that came near me, i think we are on a winner..  :lmao:


Cyl 3

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Cyl 1

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #957 on: April 01, 2016, 03:05:18 pm »
Alright,

After developing a sensational wife beater tan and numerous threats of physical violence against anyone that came near me, i think we are on a winner..  :lmao:

ok, that is still not a dry marker but it is much better than it was.

1. tell us which pattern looks the narrowest.

2. tell us which pattern looks nearest the center.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #958 on: April 01, 2016, 03:31:02 pm »
ok, that is still not a dry marker but it is much better than it was.

Yeah, its a blue one out of the pack.  :shrug:


1. tell us which pattern looks the narrowest.

To me probably the intake on 3

2. tell us which pattern looks nearest the center.

As above


But, intake on 1 looks very similar which i don't understand as there is what .100 difference in length.

Shouldn't this give a different mark ?


But if i had to make a choice i'd say the .800 rod in 3

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #959 on: April 01, 2016, 03:34:20 pm »
But, intake on 1 looks very similar which i don't understand as there is what .100 difference in length.

Shouldn't this give a different mark ?

ok, which rod is in what hole . i have no idea what is what?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #960 on: April 01, 2016, 03:35:38 pm »
Cyl 1

Int 6.700

Exh  6.750

Cyl 3

Int 6.800

Exh 6.850

Current rods are 6.950


To me it looks like the 6.800 rod has the smallest mark and closest to the center.  :shrug:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #961 on: April 01, 2016, 03:46:01 pm »
Cyl 1

Int 6.700

Exh  6.750

Cyl 3

Int 6.800

Exh 6.850

Current rods are 6.950


To me it looks like the 6.800 rod has the smallest mark and closest to the center.  :shrug:


yes, number 3 intake is the narrowest.

clean off intake valves.

put the 6.750 in number 1 intake

put the 6.850 in number 3 intake.

do it again with those and we will decide.

the additional duration on the exhaust lobe is messing up the comparrison so my apologies for that but the good thing as i mentioned is that one of the rods you have will work and so far number 3 intake is the winner.

the photos are xlnt and can be enlarged.

number 1 intake is slightly closer to the center than number 3 intake but that is irrelevant . I was just curious to see if you could tell.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #962 on: April 01, 2016, 04:13:51 pm »
No 1 - 6.750

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No 3 - 6.850

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #963 on: April 01, 2016, 04:25:07 pm »
ok, this is odd and makes no f'n sense.

can you do it with the 6.800 in the number 1 intake one LAST time...I promise...maybe.

if the 6.800 makes the same width pattern as it did the first time, that's what I would use.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #964 on: April 01, 2016, 04:49:44 pm »
Now i have no idea. Why does it now look like the others ?

I guess its not any easier because its not leaving a clean mark.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #965 on: April 01, 2016, 04:51:03 pm »
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PS - Hire a f'n gardner for $10.00 a day so you can finish your engine . None of us are gettin any younger here.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #966 on: April 01, 2016, 04:53:46 pm »
Now i have no idea. Why does it now look like the others ?

i dont f'n know.



I guess its not any easier because its not leaving a clean mark.

That is why you use the dry pen i mentioned, but ohhh nooo, we don't have dry pens in oz cuz we're too good to use those.  :lmao:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #967 on: April 01, 2016, 04:57:15 pm »
i dont f'n know.



That is why you use the dry pen i mentioned, but ohhh nooo, we don't have dry pens in oz cuz we're too good to use those.  :lmao:

White Board Marker = Dry Erase Marker  :thud:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #968 on: April 01, 2016, 04:59:13 pm »
ok, I looked at it and there is just no way to trust the marks so I don't know what to tell you other than get a dry pen or us the rod that moves the mark to the exhaust side the farthest.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #969 on: April 01, 2016, 05:00:10 pm »
White Board Marker = Dry Erase Marker  :thud:


does it come off the valve if you touch it with your finger without wiping it?


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #970 on: April 01, 2016, 05:06:44 pm »

does it come off the valve if you touch it with your finger without wiping it?

Yep, straight off.

If i use say my finger nail i'll get a clean line.




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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #971 on: April 01, 2016, 05:31:19 pm »
Yep, straight off.

If i use say my finger nail i'll get a clean line.

if you touch it and it comes right off, it "should" work . if you have to rub it at all it will not work well.

if there is oil on the rollers, clean it off.

try turning the friggen engine over 5 and 2/3rds times after installing number 3 rocker . this will put a better mark and will end up on tdc number 1.

every EVEN number of revolutions will put it exactly back to where it was.

the engine turns over two times for every complete cycle of one piston.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #972 on: April 01, 2016, 07:17:31 pm »
Are you setting the lash the same each time

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #973 on: April 01, 2016, 07:30:19 pm »
Are you setting the lash the same each time

As far as i'm aware.

I was sure Barn said if it's 21 or 20 etc it wont make a difference.  :shrug:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #974 on: April 01, 2016, 07:35:41 pm »
As far as i'm aware.

I was sure Barn said if it's 21 or 20 etc it wont make a difference.  :shrug:

and thats in millimeters correct?  :lmao: