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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #800 on: March 27, 2016, 01:28:59 pm »
i would not do anything yet . i will check on our monday with the cam mfgs . if i get the base circle info, there is no need to even mess with it . it ran before so it will run again even if the geometry isn't flawless.

i have had to turn an engine over with a rod checker before with regular springs and nothing happened to it but as shaun mentioned, your springs may damage it.

Ahh ok, thanks mate.

Here i was thinking this weekend i'd get the valve train done, intake on and move onto the other bits and pieces...  :ouch:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #801 on: March 27, 2016, 02:38:01 pm »
Ahh ok, thanks mate.

Here i was thinking this weekend i'd get the valve train done, intake on and move onto the other bits and pieces...  :ouch:

yeah, i was hoping that too cuz my fingers gettin tired of typin, but on the bright side, your prob is easily fixed and unless the intake swelled up, it "should' still fit.

As a matter of fact, you can install the intake now . you dont need it off to do the push rods.

you can also install the water pump but leave the accessories off and the fan so the pulley bolt is still easy to get to.

the only thing you will have left is the push rods.  :thumb:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #802 on: March 27, 2016, 02:53:14 pm »
yeah, i was hoping that too cuz my fingers gettin tired of typin, but on the bright side, your prob is easily fixed and unless the intake swelled up, it "should' still fit.

As a matter of fact, you can install the intake now . you dont need it off to do the push rods.

you can also install the water pump but leave the accessories off and the fan so the pulley bolt is still easy to get to.

the only thing you will have left is the push rods.  :thumb:
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Will the intake off make it easier for "me"  :lmao: to set the valves because i can see the lifters and where they are at ?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #803 on: March 27, 2016, 02:57:00 pm »
Will the intake off make it easier for "me"  :lmao: to set the valves because i can see the lifters and where they are at ?

the only thing that will make it easier for you is if someone else does it for you.

you do not need to see the lifters . this is because i had you mark the damper . besides you can simply watch the push rods go up and down instead if it makes you happy.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #804 on: March 27, 2016, 03:09:57 pm »
There must be some where close by where you can just buy rods without doing mail order, I get them from Performance wholesale here in Brisbane they have 1000's of them, they buy them in bulk, in just about every length. make sure you put the reduced end on the rocker not the lifter.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #805 on: March 27, 2016, 03:47:29 pm »
There must be some where close by where you can just buy rods without doing mail order, I get them from Performance wholesale here in Brisbane they have 1000's of them, they buy them in bulk, in just about every length. make sure you put the reduced end on the rocker not the lifter.

Yeah ill get them from Rocket or VPW etc.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #806 on: March 27, 2016, 03:59:14 pm »
Yeah ill get them from Rocket or VPW etc.

You could simply grind them to the correct length . That seemed to work just fine for your builder with your old distributor .  :lmao:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #807 on: March 27, 2016, 04:00:54 pm »
Your an idea's man..


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #808 on: March 27, 2016, 04:06:32 pm »
Your an idea's man..

...and just think of the savings!  :thumb:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #809 on: March 27, 2016, 04:09:02 pm »
Intake,

Line the gaskets up with the ports etc and trim them to fit ?

Spread a thin anount of rtv around the ports etc and put the gaskets on?

Thin amount of rtv around ports etc on the gasket?

Thick bead of sealant on front and rear of block ?

Intake on, etc, bolts in ?


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #810 on: March 27, 2016, 04:15:52 pm »
...and just think of the savings!  :thumb:

If it's good enough for "pro" engine builders it's good enough for a nupty like me...  :lol:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #811 on: March 27, 2016, 04:18:31 pm »
Intake,

Line the gaskets up with the ports etc and trim them to fit ?

Spread a thin anount of rtv around the ports etc and put the gaskets on?

Thin amount of rtv around ports etc on the gasket?

Thick bead of sealant on front and rear of block ?

Intake on, etc, bolts in ?


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ummm, if you bought the gaskets i told you to they should not need trimming.

you need gaska-cinch or contact cement to install it .  :lmao:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #812 on: March 27, 2016, 04:23:32 pm »
ummm, if you bought the gaskets i told you to they should not need trimming.

you need gaska-cinch or contact cement to install it .  :lmao:
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Figures...


I left the carbs on and it was an awkward pita to get off with the extra weight. I can see this being a bigger pita to get back on

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #813 on: March 27, 2016, 04:28:07 pm »
Figures...


I left the carbs on and it was an awkward pita to get off with the extra weight. I can see this being a bigger pita to get back on

oh, there aint no way you can do it easily by yourself without getting a hernia.

you need four 5/16" x 18 thread pitch studs 40 to 50 mm long or you will never get it right . one goes in each corner of the head . this lines the intake up so even a moron couldn't fk up the installation .  :lmao:

just have one of the kids hold one side while you hold the other and lower it on.

don't take the carbs off.
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #814 on: March 27, 2016, 05:06:25 pm »
oh, there aint no way you can do it easily by yourself without getting a hernia.

you need four 5/16" x 18 thread pitch studs 40 to 50 mm long or you will never get it right . one goes in each corner of the head . this lines the intake up so even a moron couldn't fk up the installation .  :lmao:

just have one of the kids hold one side while you hold the other and lower it on.

don't take the carbs off.
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Roger  :thumb:

Yeah, i had no plans in taking them off.

Don't think anyone could handle a

"How do you set up Weber 48 IDA's" thread  :lmao: :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #815 on: March 27, 2016, 05:09:04 pm »
Yeah, i had no plans in taking them off. Don't think anyone could handle a "How do you set up Weber 48 IDA's" thread  :lmao: :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #816 on: March 27, 2016, 05:32:00 pm »
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I NEED THE SERIAL NUMBER ON YOUR SNAUSAGE.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #817 on: March 27, 2016, 05:38:01 pm »
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I NEED THE SERIAL NUMBER ON YOUR SNAUSAGE.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #818 on: March 27, 2016, 05:49:55 pm »
Well after 46 pages across two threads I for one am glad we are back to the Webers where this all started.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #819 on: March 27, 2016, 05:52:30 pm »
WHICH ONE IS THE NUMBER ENGRAVED ON THE CAM?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #820 on: March 27, 2016, 05:53:29 pm »
Well after 46 pages across two threads I for one am glad we are back to the Webers where this all started.

And he never even too them off .  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #821 on: March 27, 2016, 06:21:05 pm »
Well after 46 pages across two threads I for one am glad we are back to the Webers where this all started.

I know Geoff, and i'm sure there are a lot people viewing this thread thinking "This fuk'n guy"  :lmao: :lmao:


As painful and i'm sure annoying as it's been for everyone, i'm glad i gave it a go myself. I don't like being told i can't do something and that's one thing i always tell my kids. Never let anyone tell you that you can't do or achieve something.


Besides, i still have to get everything else together and more importantly see if it even STARTS !  :thud: :lmao: :lmao:





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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #822 on: March 27, 2016, 06:23:22 pm »
BORING  :o:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #823 on: March 27, 2016, 06:25:18 pm »
Besides, i still have to get everything else together and more importantly see if it even STARTS !  :thud: :lmao: :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #824 on: March 27, 2016, 06:27:14 pm »
BORING  :o:

I agree, so lets get back to gay rugby players and lemon party's .  :thumb:

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