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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #725 on: March 26, 2016, 01:37:09 pm »
True..  :lol:


Going off the pointer its around the 270 mark, whats happened there ?

Rotate it around to 0 ?

It's only a few degrees off the original TDC mark from the original build ?

what?

you cant be at 270 and tdc at the same time.

rotate to the tdc mark in the direction that is closest to it.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #726 on: March 26, 2016, 01:38:46 pm »
after that look at the left front lifters, they should both as low as they can be in the bores.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #727 on: March 26, 2016, 01:45:35 pm »
after that look at the left front lifters, they should both as low as they can be in the bores.

Sorry, i meant the pointer is only a few degrees off where the builder had TDC marked.

I thought we set it at 0, so i assumed the damper would go back on it would be at 0


Fuk'd if i know. But yes the first 2 lifters are at there lowest from what i can tell

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #728 on: March 26, 2016, 01:50:17 pm »
Sorry, i meant the pointer is only a few degrees off where the builder had TDC marked.

I thought we set it at 0, so i assumed the damper would go back on it would be at 0


Fuk'd if i know. But yes the first 2 lifters are at there lowest from what i can tell

the number 1 piston is at tdc when the crank key is straight up.

you may have the wrong damper.

what side is your pointer on?

what brand is your damper?

can you post a photo?

you may need to take the bolt back out ad put the key straight up then take a photo of the timing marks.

if we dont get this right it will be very bad.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #729 on: March 26, 2016, 01:54:49 pm »
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Black mark is the original mark for TDC by the builder

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #730 on: March 26, 2016, 01:57:33 pm »
the number 1 piston is at tdc when the crank key is straight up.

you may have the wrong damper.

what side is your pointer on?

See pic

what brand is your damper?

Romac

can you post a photo?

you may need to take the bolt back out ad put the key straight up then take a photo of the timing marks.

Key was straight up when i put it on, may have moved a little when tightening it but not much

if we dont get this right it will be very bad.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #731 on: March 26, 2016, 01:59:16 pm »
son of a f'n btch

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #732 on: March 26, 2016, 02:02:38 pm »
which color are your marks?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #733 on: March 26, 2016, 02:03:52 pm »
son of a f'n btch

That's what i do not want to hear.

If i have to pull this apart, it's not happening. Fukn thing can sit there and rust away..

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #734 on: March 26, 2016, 02:04:48 pm »
which color are your marks?

Mine are the white marks, measured the damper spaced out 4 times starting at 0

The 32 degree mark is there mark

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #735 on: March 26, 2016, 02:05:34 pm »
ok, i got it . back in a minute

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #736 on: March 26, 2016, 02:12:14 pm »
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #737 on: March 26, 2016, 02:16:51 pm »
the black mark is top dead center on the 260 degree line . rotate the crank counter clockwise 5 degrees so it lines up with pointer.

1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8

adjust the valves on 1.

rotate clockwise to 170 adjust 3

rotate clockwise to 80  adjust 7

rotate to 350 adjust 2

rotate to 260 do 6

rotate 170 do 5

rotate 80 do 4

rotate 350 do 8

rotate 260 . this is tdc . recheck the valves on 1.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #738 on: March 26, 2016, 02:17:50 pm »
please don't show us your snausage bits.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #739 on: March 26, 2016, 02:18:57 pm »
remove your white marks, they are now useless.

put new ones on at the numbers i mentioned.
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #740 on: March 26, 2016, 02:26:51 pm »
We can install the intake after this . wheee!  :pepper:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #741 on: March 26, 2016, 02:27:23 pm »
 :ouch: :ouch:

Who the fuk would do this for a living....  :lmao: :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #742 on: March 26, 2016, 02:28:52 pm »
:ouch: :ouch:

Who the fuk would do this for a living....  :lmao: :lmao:

obviously not your engine builder .  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #743 on: March 26, 2016, 02:31:53 pm »
obviously not your engine builder .  :lmao:

 :lmao:


Ok, so im on the same page.

Rods in, rockers on.

torque the rockers down at the shaft, 25 ft lbs ??

Wind internal screw down till it stops,  then out 1 turn.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #744 on: March 26, 2016, 02:34:42 pm »
install each pair of rockers when you get to the correct cylinder then set the proper clearance now as per the cam card

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #745 on: March 26, 2016, 02:36:16 pm »
install each pair of rockers when you get to the correct cylinder.

set the proper clearance now as per the cam card

0.22 hot, should it be tighter cold ?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #746 on: March 26, 2016, 02:39:31 pm »
0.22 hot, should it be tighter cold ?

@%$%#!@$@#%

back in a f'n minute  :thud:

it should have given a cold spec . i will look.

what is your cam number?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #747 on: March 26, 2016, 02:42:12 pm »
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do you have a blow dryer to heat them up with?  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #748 on: March 26, 2016, 02:46:37 pm »
@%$%#!@$@#%

back in a f'n minute  :thud:

it should have given a cold spec . i will look.

what is your cam number?

220183-10

just has running clearance (hot)

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #749 on: March 26, 2016, 02:54:05 pm »
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post a photo that makes no sense.


hey, that's a nice cam, who suggested that one?

set them .002" TIGHTER than they suggest.

put the feeler gauge between the rocker and valve

tighten screw until it requires a slight force to remove the gauge

hold the screw as you tighten the nut.

recheck the clearance.

the adjustment needs to be very close but not 110% perfect .001" off is ok.


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