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Offline barnett468

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #475 on: March 17, 2016, 03:18:19 pm »
it needs to be on the face of the gears and the ends . white out may work best . if you use paint, you can dry it with the ol ladys blow dryer .

oh, by the way, how's that gas powered land cruiser running?  :lmao:

you should also paint a 3 teeth on the cam gear also and try to take a photo of both gears with the distributor installed.

told ya this was gonna be a pita.
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #476 on: March 17, 2016, 03:49:36 pm »
it needs to be on the face of the gears and the ends . white out may work best . if you use paint, you can dry it with the ol ladys blow dryer .

oh, by the way, how's that gas powered land cruiser running?  :lmao:

you should also paint a 3 teeth on the cam gear also and try to take a photo of both gears with the distributor installed.

told ya this was gonna be a pita.
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Ignore the yellow. Best i photo i can get.

The yellow is off the cam gear, thought it would contrast better against white

Looks like it's meshing with the lower part of the gear ?


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #477 on: March 17, 2016, 04:01:12 pm »
ok what did you put on it?

what is that yellow crap?

the paint is not deep enough in the gears . paint the crap out of it.

i  can't quite tell but it looks like the gear is maybe 2 mm too low . this part is critical so i would clean it off and do it again.

when you rotate the cam, turn it clockwise as you face the front of the engine and grab the top of the dist shaft and try to keep it from turning easily . this will make the marks easier to see.

also next time, rotate the shaft 180 degrees after you take the first photo and take another one.

are ya havin fun yet?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #478 on: March 17, 2016, 04:09:00 pm »
This is fuk'd   :ouch:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #479 on: March 17, 2016, 04:36:21 pm »
This is fuk'd   :ouch:

 :lmao:

told ya so!  :therethere:

this is exactly why the idiot that built your $18,000.00 engine didn't do it.  :shrug:

i guess you just didn't pay him enough. :lmao:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #480 on: March 17, 2016, 04:43:45 pm »
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...it is a very nice photo though .  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #481 on: March 17, 2016, 04:49:43 pm »
The black is the assembly lube.

It looks to be even on a lot of gears. My guess is there isn't enough lube on some of the cam gear to make the impression in parts.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #482 on: March 17, 2016, 04:57:34 pm »
the paint aint gonna work  :cry:

do you have white out?
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #483 on: March 17, 2016, 05:00:33 pm »
the paint aint gonna work  :cry:

Say what now..

Most of the gears mesh top to bottom in the same spots.

I'll have to photograph the whole bloody gear though
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #484 on: March 17, 2016, 05:02:38 pm »
Say what now..

do you have liquid white out?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #485 on: March 17, 2016, 05:05:56 pm »
do you have liquid white out?


I knew you were going to say that.

Nope, only the tape stuff.

No one uses liquid white out man, get with the times....  :kickass:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #486 on: March 17, 2016, 05:07:35 pm »


I knew you were going to say that.

Nope, only the tape stuff.

No one uses liquid white out man, get with the times....  :kickass:

sorry, don't need to get with the times cuz MY CAR RUNS .  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #487 on: March 17, 2016, 05:09:38 pm »
sorry, don't need to get with the times cuz MY CAR RUNS .  :lmao:

i'll have to do a supermarket mission in the diesel/petrol hybrid..


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #488 on: March 17, 2016, 05:14:00 pm »
looks like.

get white grease and liquid white out.

the good thing is that i don see anything horrible.

how do the edges of that gear compare t the pertronix gear.

post a photo of the crane after it is clean.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #489 on: March 17, 2016, 05:31:13 pm »
looks like.

get white grease and liquid white out.

the good thing is that i don see anything horrible.

how do the edges of that gear compare t the pertronix gear.

post a photo of the crane after it is clean.

Alright, got "white out" because that's what all the cool kids are using apparently.

Have to get white grease tomorrow, longer drive.

So for the 300th time, ill clean it and put the white out on it
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #490 on: March 17, 2016, 05:33:39 pm »
ok try the white out you might not need the grease.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #491 on: March 17, 2016, 05:39:22 pm »
wtf are all the marks below the gear that look like tiny punch marks?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #492 on: March 17, 2016, 05:43:57 pm »
wtf are all the marks below the gear that look like tiny punch marks?

It's just the photo

Can't see anything by looking at it

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #493 on: March 17, 2016, 05:49:09 pm »
It's just the photo

Can't see anything by looking at it

thats good.

it looks like the gears might have a lot of engagement and be cut nearly identical which would be a good thing.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #494 on: March 17, 2016, 05:57:39 pm »
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Looks to be pretty even and that's positioned exactly where the stock gear was
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #495 on: March 17, 2016, 06:03:50 pm »
are you holding the shaft on top to put more force in it?

i would stick it back in and turn it some more but put the clamp on it.

put some white out on the bottom to make sure it isnt hitting the block.

we may have a winner but i want to be certain

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #496 on: March 17, 2016, 06:18:01 pm »
are you holding the shaft on top to put more force in it?

Yes

i would stick it back in and turn it some more but put the clamp on it.

Done, Looks the same

put some white out on the bottom to make sure it isnt hitting the block.

we may have a winner but i want to be certain

Put it on the bottom, not touching at all. Still at about .005


Excellent !!!

I think i may have just pee'd a little..


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #497 on: March 17, 2016, 06:22:05 pm »
Excellent !!!

I think i may have just pee'd a little..

i meant are you holding the DISTRIBUTORS shaft? .  :lmao:

better get some extra saucy depends.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #498 on: March 17, 2016, 06:23:24 pm »
Gee Dean and Jerry,  you guys have been busy . Or are you the skipper and Gilligan ? Or   maybe Fred and Barney is more like it   :thumb:    Good job tho  :grin:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #499 on: March 17, 2016, 06:27:19 pm »
Gee Dean and Jerry,  you guys have been busy . Or are you the skipper and Gilligan ? Or   maybe Fred and Barney is more like it   :thumb:    Good job tho  :grin:

you forgot bob and bing and laurel and hardy!

he's friggen close but he ain't gonna like what he has to do next .  :lmao:

tha crane gear is friggen bitchen and that cam gear is friggen bitchen . he cant even get them to cut thru the white out completely they are so friggen smooth.

now he can see why i was so adamant about getting the crane gear.

i'm having him suspend the gear above the dist pad in the block because the bronze gear ate the f'n block so he needs a hard roll pin.
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