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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #225 on: February 25, 2016, 09:17:56 am »
Never been to AZ, isn't it just all dirt ?

Family live in South Carolina so i travel there a bit.

Sister is a Doctor in Abu Dabi. Now that joint is on a whole other level hot.

To quote Richard Rawlings "good golly"
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #226 on: February 25, 2016, 09:41:54 am »
Barnett your from AZ  and I've been in that hot state in the summer and it was about 45 deg . I remember trying to open the car door and burning my hand on the door Handel .

But it's a "dry" heat so it's not that bad....as long as you use gloves to open your door .

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #227 on: February 25, 2016, 09:44:03 am »
Never been to AZ, isn't it just all dirt ?

No, that's simply ridiculous...it has Cactuses too.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #228 on: February 25, 2016, 09:54:37 am »
Yep dry heat ,every time I took a breath it burned .  AZ has a lot of people from south of the border also .  :grin:   The  Mex    s

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #229 on: February 25, 2016, 10:04:01 am »
AZ has a lot of people from south of the border also .  :grin:   The  Mex    s

Yeah but not even 1/10th of what California has.

Total Hispanic Population in California ................... 14,358,000   
Hispanics as Percent of State Population ....................... 38.0%   
Hispanics as Percent of U.S. Hispanic Population ............ 27.7%   



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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #230 on: February 25, 2016, 10:10:57 am »
No, that's simply ridiculous...it has Cactuses too.


You people sure do like Beige.  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #231 on: February 25, 2016, 10:25:58 am »
Right, tried the two nut option on the studs.

They aren't long enough to get both nuts on then get a spanner in there because of the lip on the edge of the pan. There barely long enough to get both the nuts on there.

Will save a lot of time if i just back all the nuts off just enough to hold the pan so it drops down far enough

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #232 on: February 25, 2016, 10:29:21 am »
You can also take a pair of good vice grips and undo them . they will not be in the cover very hard.

Also, since you are already  :cry: about how hard it is to remove a simple timing cover, I can't wait until you try to actually get the pan out of the car....and then reinstall it . That is gonna be worth the price of admission  .  :lmao:
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #233 on: February 25, 2016, 11:06:12 am »
If you are desperate to leave the pan doesn't really matter if you damage the threads with vice grips just get a couple new 5/16" unc x 1" bolts and replace them or clean em with a die.  Sealer or loctite could be on the threads hence why its a bit tough to unwind.

Otherwise drop pan then you can clean it and check for debris , pump screen, etc

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #234 on: February 25, 2016, 11:11:29 am »
Yahtzee !!

I only see a dot on the upper gear, and obviously numbers on the bottom.

Do i need to line up the dot on the upper gear with the 0 on the lower ??

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #235 on: February 25, 2016, 11:14:21 am »

Do i need to line up the dot on the upper gear with the 0 on the lower ??

xlnt!

you rotated the crank when yo removed the damper and we have no idea how much you rotated it.

rotate the crank clockwise until the dot on the cam gear is straight down.

check the play on the chain before you remove it but it looks friggen tight.

use my instructions to remove it or you may fuk it up

WHAT BRAND IS THE TIMING SET?
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #236 on: February 25, 2016, 11:19:21 am »
xlnt!

rotate the crank clockwise until the dot on the cam gear is straight down.

check the play on the chain before you remove it but it looks friggen tight.

use my instructions to remove it or you may fuk it up

WHAT BRAND IS THE TIMING SET?


Because the crank bolt is spaced out slightly by the balancer. Will the bolt bottom out before i can get it tight enough to turn it over. Dont want to damage the crank, threads etc

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #237 on: February 25, 2016, 11:21:10 am »
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You can almost turn it over by hand now since your spark plugs are out so you will not damage it by tightening the bolt and using that to turn it, just put the trans in neutral.

...AND ANSWER THE FRIGGEN QUESTIONS  :toetapping:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #238 on: February 25, 2016, 11:25:23 am »
Done, dot and the 0 pretty much line up.

Left side of the chain has a tiny amount of slack, maybe 5mm at most. right side has zero.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #239 on: February 25, 2016, 11:26:50 am »
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ok xlnt...now use my previous instructions and yank the gears off.

...AND ANSWER THE FRIGGEN QUESTIONS  :toetapping:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #240 on: February 25, 2016, 11:44:40 am »
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ok xlnt...now use my previous instructions and yank the gears off.

The rockers are shaft mount. Does that mean i take them all off in one piece ? By undoing all the nuts between the rockers ?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #241 on: February 25, 2016, 11:48:29 am »
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1 you must loosen the nuts on the tips first, then just unbolt them.

2 after you remove them, turn each adjustment screw out 2 full turns . do NOT forget to do this.

3 you do not need to keep them in order.

4 remove all the push rods and put them in a bag.

5 remove the lifters and inspect the rollers for play.







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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #242 on: February 25, 2016, 12:04:20 pm »
Ive got most of the rockers off but i cant get the last 2 off because each have a valve open a bit so there is too much tension on 2 of the rods.

im sure ive fkd up somewhere along the way. can i rotate the engine to take the tension off. or will that now cause big issues with the rest of the rockers off

knew this would turn to shite soon enough

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #243 on: February 25, 2016, 12:07:38 pm »
no problemo, just rotate the engine until the valves are open then rotate it back after you remove the engine.

i sure hope you loosened the nuts on the adjusters first.

you are almost there.

no you did not fuk up if you followed my instructions.

this is "almost" idiot proof .  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #244 on: February 25, 2016, 12:16:59 pm »
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You should have your Snausage out and on the table in around 30 minutes, IF you have the Snausage removal bolt . There may be one in the damper puller box that will fit.

If you don't have a bolt, you can put the cam bolt in then grab the head of it with vice grips.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #245 on: February 25, 2016, 12:23:25 pm »
Yeah i loosened the nuts.

rockers and push rods are out.

cannot get the lifters out without removing the heads. only come out 3/4's and they hit the head  :shrug:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #246 on: February 25, 2016, 12:32:54 pm »
Yeah i loosened the nuts.

rockers and push rods are out.

cannot get the lifters out without removing the heads. only come out 3/4's and they hit the head  :shrug:

ok, you are now kinda fuked . the f'n bastards used the type of lifters that must be installed with the heads off

these will go right in


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #247 on: February 25, 2016, 12:35:31 pm »
For now, you can get some safety wire and feed it thru a push rod hole then put it on the lifter cross bar then lift the lifters up and tie the wire to a rocker bolt on the head.  :thumb:

then remove the cam.  :thumb: :thumb:

you don't really need to remove the lifters but it would have been nice to check the condition of the rollers, but i doubt they are bad so soon.



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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #248 on: February 25, 2016, 12:38:45 pm »
 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Of course they did...

rightio ill tie them up

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #249 on: February 25, 2016, 12:40:01 pm »
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Of course they did...

Should I pretend I'm surprised?


rightio ill tie them up

Sounds kinky .  :drool:
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