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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #150 on: February 24, 2016, 01:19:43 pm »
Alright, time to yank on this snausage.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #151 on: February 24, 2016, 01:29:00 pm »
Alright, time to yank on this snausage.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #152 on: February 24, 2016, 02:02:30 pm »
right,

well none of the bolts for the puller seem to fit the balancer  :lmao: :cry:

Threads too large or too small

Its a Romac balancer


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #153 on: February 24, 2016, 02:15:12 pm »
Get a piece of flat 6mm plate and match drill 3/4 holes to suit your pulley/balancer setup.

Thread in the balancer bolt 6 - 8 turns, put a spacer between the bolt head and the flat plate then screw the 3/4 pulley mount bolts (either 5/16" or 3/8" UNC I cant remember) in and use them as jacking bolts to jack off the balancer from crank snout.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #154 on: February 24, 2016, 02:16:11 pm »
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #155 on: February 24, 2016, 02:20:46 pm »
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Take the bolts that held the pulley on to the store in your new Landcruiser and just get longer ones.

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #156 on: February 24, 2016, 02:22:31 pm »
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Take the bolts that held the pulley on to the store in your new Landcruiser...

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #157 on: February 24, 2016, 02:24:41 pm »
:lmao:

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I'm ready to shank someone today  :cry:  :toetapping:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #158 on: February 24, 2016, 02:36:37 pm »
I'm ready to shank someone today  :cry:  :toetapping:
Won't ya first need a vehicle that actually runs so you can go find somebody to do that to?


OMG Barn....that's brutal!

 
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #159 on: February 24, 2016, 02:41:32 pm »
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Doesn't the dealer give out loaners?


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #160 on: February 24, 2016, 02:49:13 pm »
Cheers barn  :lmao:

Rang romac, threads are 3/8 unc or 3/8 uns

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #161 on: February 24, 2016, 02:53:18 pm »
Get a piece of flat 6mm plate and match drill 3/4 holes to suit your pulley/balancer setup.

Thread in the balancer bolt 6 - 8 turns, put a spacer between the bolt head and the flat plate then screw the 3/4 pulley mount bolts (either 5/16" or 3/8" UNC I cant remember) in and use them as jacking bolts to jack off the balancer from crank snout.

Cheers mate, yet more assing about.  :lmao:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #162 on: February 24, 2016, 03:23:02 pm »
Before i forget do roller lifters need to go back in the same cylinder they came from on re assembly

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #163 on: February 24, 2016, 03:25:24 pm »
Before i forget do roller lifters need to go back in the same cylinder they came from on re assembly

Hey....read the instructions.  :toetapping:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #164 on: February 24, 2016, 05:05:29 pm »
Picked up some bolts according to Romac, no dice.

Have a 60 Piece puller and not one bolt fits the holes.

3/8 unc are to big, the others are a fraction to small.


Had enough of this shite today  :ouch: :ouch:

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #165 on: February 24, 2016, 05:09:40 pm »
Picked up some bolts according to Romac, no dice.

Have a 60 Piece puller and not one bolt fits the holes.

3/8 unc are to big, the others are a fraction to small.

Had enough of this shite today  :ouch: :ouch:


Some people prefer to do things the hard way.

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Take the bolts that held the pulley on to the store in your new Landcruiser and just get longer ones.
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #166 on: February 24, 2016, 05:22:24 pm »
have some allen head bolts that fit, how tight is it supposed to be because i have the centre bolt with the cone shaped tip on it, and its that tight its almost rotating the engine.

I put a mark on the balancer to see if its moving at all and not even a mm


Just worried im going to fk the end of the crank or the balancer
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #167 on: February 24, 2016, 05:38:47 pm »
I hope  you undid the  centre bolt and took the big washer off then replaced the bolt  and screwed it in a little then used the puller .   

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #168 on: February 24, 2016, 05:39:36 pm »
have some allen head bolts that fit, how tight is it supposed to be because i have the centre bolt with the cone shaped tip on it, and its that tight its almost rotating the engine.

I put a mark on the balancer to see if its moving at all and not even a mm


Just worried im going to fk the end of the crank or the balancer


ok, hold on just a second ill be back

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #169 on: February 24, 2016, 05:42:05 pm »

ok, hold on just a second ill be back

Knowing my luck lately i probably have this on wrong  :thud:

Can i put a bit of heat into it ?

Only thing i can thing of is the centre bolt on the puller is pressing on the bottom of the balancer and not the crank.

the other puller i have the centre bolt will thread into the crank but i was dubious to do that, if i put the crank bolt in and press off that it just starts to wind the crank bolt back in.
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #170 on: February 24, 2016, 05:44:41 pm »
STOP

you need washers or big nuts to use as washers under the allen bolts

if the end of the puller is big and pointed, remove the center bolt that holds the damper on then screw the puller bolt in until it is snug.

with the car in 4th gear and the e brake on, turn the puller bolt with a 3 foot bar if it won't move with a shorter one.

keep turning until it is off

you are almost there.

DO NOT HEAT ANYTHING
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #171 on: February 24, 2016, 05:48:55 pm »
STOP

you need washers or big nuts to use as washers under the allen bolts

if the end of the puller is big and pointed, remove the center bolt that holds the damper on then screw the puller bolt in until it is snug.

with the car in 4th gear and the e brake on, turn the puller bolt with a 3 foot bar if it won't move with a shorter one.

keep turning until it is off

you are almost there.

DO NOT HEAT ANYTHING

roger.

yeah i thought heat may damage the seal in the balancer


so the puller bolt wont damage the end of the crank ?

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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #172 on: February 24, 2016, 05:53:11 pm »
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not if the outside diameter of pointed end is larger than the threads which most of them are.

the end of the crank hole us tapered slightly for this purpose.

if the end of the bolt is flat, you may need to use the damper bolt so it can press afainst that
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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #173 on: February 24, 2016, 05:54:23 pm »
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not if the outside diameter of pointed end is larger than the threads which most of them are.


so im taking that pointed end off ?

there are two sizes, or and i just winding the bolt in with out the pointed.

the other centre bolt on the puller will thread into the crank.


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Re: Do you have to degree a new cam ?
« Reply #174 on: February 24, 2016, 05:57:43 pm »

so im taking that pointed end off ?

there are two sizes, or and i just winding the bolt in with out the pointed.

do NOT use it without the pointy end . just make sure the pointy end is big enough that it does NOT go inside the threaded crank hole.

use the biggest pointy thing that will fit inside the damper if they are interchangeable .

you may have to slip a long bar next to the bolt in the puller so you can keep the engine from turning.
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