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Technical & General Discussion Area => Restomods => Topic started by: Stu67 on February 08, 2010, 04:12:02 am
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Howdy all,
Well, thought it about time i start to intro my car and what I am doing to it. Many years ago, a good friend of mine let me drive his 65 coupe. From that moment on i was hooked and going to get myself a Mustang, the 67 Fastback being my drug of choice. Recently things have been good on the work front so i thought, lets do it. Good thing the wife agreed...
Contacted Matt at Shermatt and asked him to import a car i had already spoken to someone about. Matt warned me to let him check it out first but in the heat of the moment i jumped the gun and bought a lemon.... you may remember this thread about "Scam a Scammer" (http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/viewthread.php?tid=7029&page=1)
The car arrived last december with many thanks to Matt and work started immediately and boy was there alot of work to do. Shermatt were great and stacked the vehicle full of parts, both new and old for me so i could save some $$ on buying them here.
Plan is :
Fairly plain looking exterior, keep the sexy stock fastback lines.
Lowered, nice but not outrageous wheels with large disks and updated suspension.
Worked late model injected V8, late model auto, lsd rear,
RHD converted.
To do everything myself with help of my father and enjoy the building process just as much as the finished product. Dads getting on a bit and its nice to spend some time working on something together again. Wont ever be a concourse car but thats not what i want, nor have the money to achieve.
This my first project car, will be a daily driver or used at least a few times per week and therefore needs to be reliable. I plan to keep it for a long long time.
Below are pics of what i thought i was getting....
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/jarvegimite/CAR/67FBK5.jpg)
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/jarvegimite/CAR/67FBK3.jpg)
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/jarvegimite/CAR/67FBK6.jpg)
AND this is what i got......
(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/DSC05542.jpg)
(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/MustangMayhem/DSC05526.jpg)
Well, work has begun as you will see in the next bunch of pics.....
TBC
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The engine was described to me as "Running when parked" at the time of purchase. Upon getting the car it was noted this was a very broad term, perhaps the seller meant "running before i parked it, stripped the heads, exhaust, radiator, all electrics" Engine looks to have sat for a long time with the bores open to the elements and water sitting in them.
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Note the missing core plug....
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Sump was full of corrosion.
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Pistons rusted solid to the bores, looks like water has sat in the sump until the sump rusted through and it drained out.
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Engine is pretty much ruined, not worth the time to chisel out the pistons, resleeve and repair everything, so the donor vehicle we need has to have a good, solid engine. Note that when the prop shaft dropped out the back of the c4, a lovely, red milky sludge drained out, so looks like water has been sitting in the gearbox for some time too.
The recent purchase of the following donor car will make a big difference...
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Purchased an entire EF fairmont for $1k, its a wreck but the engine starts and sounds great, its been modified and dyno'd at 300 rear wheel HP. Gbox is good too with a LSD rear end, only problem with it is that a small Japanese vehicle tried to get into the front passenger seat and by the look of the damage, nearly got the seatbelt clicked in too. Structurally its a write off but mechanically its in top condition.
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Welcome to the world of Mustang ownership. ;_ Now that's one mighty good looking floor repair. ;w A cut n polsh will fix it.:+
You've got some work to do. What's the remainder of the body like?
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Good luck with the build Stu67. Looking forward to watching the transformation mate. This will be one special car seeing that you are building it with your old man.
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First day of work.....
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Unloading the beast...
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Fred Flinstone floors...
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Cutting begins, alot of metalwork to do but no time like the present...
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Second day of work.....
Floors cut out for the cabin, had to fabricate new leaf spring mount boxes and weld in.
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Floor Cut outs done and new left and right floor pans located and tack welded in.
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My 2 favourite tools, a hammer and a mallet.
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Day 5.
Looks like my dad got bored during the week while i was at work (He is recently retired) and he decided to weld the floor pans in completely. His welding is alot better than my amateur attempts so probably a good thing, he cants keep his dirty mitts off ;2
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The seat risers are still loose, will keep them this way and modify them to handle the front bucket seats out of the Fairmont donor car.
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Locating the rear panels after removing the previous rusted mess..
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Welded in and looking better, new rear panel support ties everything together nicer.
[IMG=700x525]http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/jarvegimite/15-Feb-2010/06022010432.jpg[/IMG]
New tank makes it look even better, though we have had to use the magnabender to fabricate a rear backside for the diff tunnel.
Have some new lower quarter panel extensions that we are going to have to install to tie up the new trunk panels to, so cant complete them yet.... A job for a little later on.
Next up is stripping the Fairmont, going to be doing something a little different, using the entire set of Fairmont running gear, drive line, suspension and brakes. Rebuilding all of the mounting points on the mustang to accommodate everything so its going to be a major job, but it will turn into something very different. Will have to work out alot of things along the way and get some wheels with different offsets, but as price is a bit of a factor I can do alot of things with the donor car to save myself money and make my car the way i want to. Cant wait, getting excited!!
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Geez nice progress mate
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Great progress. Can't wait to see the suspension go in..
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Good stuff, Go the resto-mods. It would be handy having your old man on the job as well
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Going very well , looks good. That was nice of you to supply your dad with a retirement hobby. :+
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What a nasty surprise Stu, you're tackling it head on though, hats off to you. What a great thing you can look back on doing this with your dad, priceless.
Im intrigued by the old bike in the background in one shot, can only see the front wheel - BSA maybe? or am I way off.
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Working on it with my Dad has been great so far, hes getting on a bit (70yrs) but the knowledge stored up i could only hope to know half of.
Your right about the bike in the background Ponyride, its a BSA A10. Dad loves his british bikes and is an avid collector and restorer. There is a Bonneville under the towel tucked up next to it and another couple of Bonnevilles hidden around the shed.
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Ahhh the Triumph Bonneville, best sounding bike ever...:(
There is a British bike collector down my street, a few properties from me, he fires them up every weekend & rides one past every few minutes. Hard to get any work done when there is so much nice scenery rolling by..
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Originally posted by Stu67
There is a Bonneville under the towel tucked up next to it and another couple of Bonnevilles hidden around the shed.
Love those Bonnevilles. Them and the Norton Commandos, they were the bikes of choice for cred. back in the 70s - not many Harleys around here then!
Good post, good times, enjoy mate.
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I thought he was talking about the Pontiac Bonneville. 3 of those big boys would take up some room.
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3 of those Cage and i would have nowhere to put my car!
Once dad has finished all 3 Bonnevilles my brother and I plan to go riding with him on the Vintage Motorcycle club runs, good fun, though power to weight wise i will be left in the dust!
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Great work so far.
You're a braver man than me. Hopefully karma credit will payback the mug who sold it to you !
Cheers,
Frank.
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Brings back memories of my recent work on the '67 fastback. The difference was mine still had most of the metal in the floors, although it's amazing/disappointing when you sandblast away the paint and find kilos of bog and rust in lots of other places!
I found it great working with my son on this project (he's a qualified motor body builder so most of the welding work was left to him).
Anyway, keep going and don't be disheartened by all the challenges, the finished project will be worth all the pain.
PT.
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PT that's a nice looking fastback, do you have some photos of the car/resto to share?
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Stu,
Keep posting up pics.
Doing a great job :(
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Yes, we all want to see the completed story.:(
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Stuey....I would also like to see more pics of your resto mate.....That car was a basket case, so the work you have done so far is amazing
Anyone that gets in and has a crack at this sort of stuff really has a true understanding of how much work goes into repairing/restoring a mustang
Hats of to ya brother
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Thanks guys,
Matt inspired me by saying "Every Mustang needs saving", This one just needs more saving than most! Nothing like a challenge to overcome, just cant wait to go for a cruise to Hungry Jacks with my dad in the passenger seat once its done :) Seeing him grip the handrail when i plant it will make everything worth while!
Still on track to have it over the pits by Xmas this year, lots to do!
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any updates? :(
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Slow on the updates, but large one attached :)
Well, things have been on and off, my father and mother spent 9 weeks on the east coast so the car took a little of a back seat, but now its all systems go and things are back on track. Most of the horrible work has now been done and we are starting to put things back together which is a very rewarding process i am finding.... So, where to start....
[IMG=700x525]http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/jarvegimite/10-April-2010/11042010484.jpg[/IMG]
Discovered the joys of POR15, this stuff is worth every penny....
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(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/jarvegimite/16-May-2010/16052010507.jpg)
Reapiring the pillars, yes we are no Ozbilt with our body work but it will all get touched up nearer the finish
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Tail panel and rear valance are trial fitted with Tek screws to get everything lined up and square. Tek holes to be spot welded over.
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Fire wall and toe boards all repaired and painted with rust proof. Cant wait to cut the firewall and switch it up for the RHD conversion.
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Multiple sheet repairs under the back seat. My father thought it prudent to re-weld both seatbelt connections for safety's sake.
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Seat risers installed. Was amazed at the added strength these put into the floor pans. Used a trolley jack under each floor pan to bring them up marginally to the underside of the riser to reverse all the sagging while a 110kg lump was sitting on them...
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My father holding the seat to check positioning. Thanks to Jtourvas for the seats, will fix the GT500 on them as mine isnt going to be a GT500 clone. Apart from that they are in superb condition. Note the burn marks on the wood, from jacking up the floor pans then spot welding. Car now smells like burnt pine!
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Right hand drive just feels more natural....good thing i dont have the windscreen in else the car noises i was making might have left residue on the glass.
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Test fit of the bumper to make sure all sits square still, valance not fitted. Gas cap looks good, thanks again to Jtourvas!
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Trunk lid not sitting straight, nor the quarter panel extensions, but damn i like the way its starting to shape up. Bumper shines up very well, thanks Matt from Shermatt for packing it so safely :)
Well, getting there, not bad for a weekender job with my father doing bits and pieces when he feels like it during the week. Definately getting to the rewarding part of the process.
Next.....Engine is on its way out of the fairmont, so is the wiring loom, then the dashboard and i will fabricate my own dash and support fitting the electronics from the fairmont. Plan to have cruise control, electronic dash intruments and all the fairmont aircon etc incorporated. Going to be a squeeze but cant wait.
PIcked up most of an XW front end, so going to use these bits to get it past the licensing people, less headaches than trying to fit the fairmont front suspension and steering arrangement. $60 for the XW bits wasnt a bad find, just needs the disks replaced and calipers restored to their former glory :)
Hope to have the suspension and steering done inside the next month and the engine installed the month after that. Till then, apologies for the long winded post!
Stu
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great work! car is looking great!
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Update...
Not alot going on, chasing down bits and pieces and doing a number of fiddly bits and pieces.....my father has spent alot of time on ebay of late winning various things..... so its all coming together.
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/jarvegimite/07-06-2010/06062010523.jpg)
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Brakes are looking good, ready to go on, as is all of the front suspension. Just awaiting a few minor things like rubber boots and we are ready to roll.
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/jarvegimite/07-06-2010/06062010525.jpg)
Dash has been cut and welded to suit its new life as a right hand drive...
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Got the old wheels and tyres off and replaced with some cheapies for now, so i can sell the 4 x white wall tyres i had the car shipped with. Makes a massive improvement, fills the guards out nicely and makes the car look alot more substantial.
Only dreaming of the day i get the CS 18's over...the white walls are for sale on the sales forum...plug plug...
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/jarvegimite/11-June-2010/12062010547.jpg)
Much healthier looking!
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Been a while since i have been on here, but here is a quick update....
Home made conversion to RHD complete.
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No, that wheel is not staying in.
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Front suspension rebuilt and installed, refurbished doors cleaned up a little, panel work still to go.
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Converted dash fits well, need to rebuild the hinges on the glove compartment.
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Havent been seated in a Mustang for 15yrs, forgot just how cozy they are compared to late model vehicles.
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A fair bit of work has gone on that isnt in the pictures, like the brake booster being installed and she shelby drop completed. The EFI motor in the fairmont is ready to come out and will be slotted snugly in the engine bay this weekend, cant wait to see the stance with the engine in it.
Images resized to fit for you
[Edited on 15-8-10 by CPU]
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Great progress there Stu... :thumb:
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Great progress Stu67,
Mine has been on a rotisserie for over a year, so now I feel really slow.
I would be really interested in how you did the instrument cluster swap to RHD. There are several guys in Melbourne who charge heaps to do it and the quality varies enormously.
My idea was to make a mould and construct a new one from fibreglass, but that would require skills I have not developed, so might have to consider alternatives.
PT
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hey stu67,
any chance you can put a link to your photobucket would love to see what you have done , as I have a 67 fb project on the way which is going to restomoded as well
Cheers
67fasty.sm
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Hey Petey,
Go to RRS suspension web site they have made a repo 67 rh dash gauge cluster and lh glove boxside looks good from the pic's hope this helps
cheers
shane