Author Topic: Pedders or Kings Springs to lower front on 65 Coupe ?. (Read 19663 times)

fastrc · « **Reply #25 on:** November 17, 2014, 10:57:17 pm »

Thanks everybody for your help, my King Springs were delivered today and Koni's arrive tomorrow.
Looking forward to the install.

griff · « **Reply #26 on:** November 17, 2014, 11:34:04 pm »

Giddyup.

jlewis · « **Reply #27 on:** February 01, 2018, 10:15:24 pm »

Gents,

Any idea on the Kings part number for stock springs? I'm trying to recover from a 2"+ lowering at the front that has caused new paint work damage with new slightly larger tyres (long story, bad math).

Cheers.

Jeremy.

birdman · « **Reply #28 on:** February 01, 2018, 11:01:46 pm »

Quote from: jlewis on February 01, 2018, 10:15:24 pm

Gents,

Any idea on the Kings part number for stock springs? I'm trying to recover from a 2"+ lowering at the front that has caused new paint work damage with new slightly larger tyres (long story, bad math).

Cheers.

Jeremy.

No idea but I just fitted the KFFL59's - 205/70/14's plenty of clearance. 650mm from highest point top to bottom level ground

shaunp · « **Reply #29 on:** February 02, 2018, 08:36:31 am »

Kings 59's are lowered 6 cylinder Cortina spring so standard height Cortina spring may work. But 59's are not too low generally.

jlewis · « **Reply #30 on:** February 02, 2018, 03:53:45 pm »

I bought 225/60/15 and I knew the car was already lowered. Having already stuffed up the new paint job I'd like to keep well and clear. I've read that KKFL-0 suit as well and are not as lowered, but I'd still rather aim for stock.

Dwayne · « **Reply #31 on:** February 02, 2018, 04:05:26 pm »

Just give Kings a call, or if you're in Qld ... go there.

shaunp · « **Reply #32 on:** February 02, 2018, 04:05:54 pm »

Quote from: jlewis on February 02, 2018, 03:53:45 pm

I bought 225/60/15 and I knew the car was already lowered. Having already stuffed up the new paint job I'd like to keep well and clear. I've read that KKFL-0 suit as well and are not as lowered, but I'd still rather aim for stock.

No they are lowered and heavier rate they are a Falcon spring. you can tell by the part number. KFFL = King, ford front low.

I have built a 65 for a forum member it has KFFL 59's 225/60/15 , runs a 351 and AOD, auto , AC etc so plenty of weight in the front and the guards sit above the Tyre no trouble also has 5 leaf reverse eyes in the back same thing has clearance to the wheels.

I would try the 59's first frankly.

jlewis · « **Reply #33 on:** February 03, 2018, 09:55:51 am »

I did call Kings directly on Friday, they recommended KFFS-02, which is for a same era Fairlane, stock height.

birdman · « **Reply #34 on:** February 03, 2018, 01:13:33 pm »

Quote from: jlewis on February 03, 2018, 09:55:51 am

I did call Kings directly on Friday, they recommended KFFS-02, which is for a same era Fairlane, stock height.

Good luck cause i am positive it'll raise it up to 4WD height...
PS i'm sure shaunp will chime in, he's an expert

shaunp · « **Reply #35 on:** February 04, 2018, 09:22:11 pm »

Quote from: birdman on February 03, 2018, 01:13:33 pm

Good luck cause i am positive it'll raise it up to 4WD height...
PS i'm sure shaunp will chime in, he's an expert

Only ever put 59s in them and trim if it needs to be lower. I've never tried to get one Standard height

HAMBURGLAR · « **Reply #36 on:** February 04, 2018, 09:45:04 pm »

I used the 59's and took off another 15mm which gave me another 30mm off when installed on car. Should of gone 10mm instead for 20mm lower .

shaunp · « **Reply #37 on:** February 05, 2018, 09:29:19 am »

That looks pretty good to me.

67FBGT · « **Reply #38 on:** February 05, 2018, 01:58:42 pm »

So how does the KFFL-59 spring compare to a stock '67 spring, if it is actually for a Cortina? (shaunp's post somewhere above).
Is it slightly or a lot stiffer, single or progressive rate?
(Sorry but prefer to ask the knowledgeable ones on here, rather than the King tech dept).

shaunp · « **Reply #39 on:** February 05, 2018, 03:01:05 pm »

Quote from: 67FBGT on February 05, 2018, 01:58:42 pm

So how does the KFFL-59 spring compare to a stock '67 spring, if it is actually for a Cortina? (shaunp's post somewhere above).
Is it slightly or a lot stiffer, single or progressive rate?
(Sorry but prefer to ask the knowledgeable ones on here, rather than the King tech dept).

Both progressive and stiff compared to mustang. The KFFL0 is a 6 cylinder falcon spring

mcarnage59 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 05, 2018, 03:25:31 pm »

Quote from: 67FBGT on February 05, 2018, 01:58:42 pm

So how does the KFFL-59
(Sorry but prefer to ask the knowledgeable ones on here, rather than the King tech dept).

Certainly don’t class myself as knowledgeable. Can only offer personal experience!
Put KFFL - 59 on my 65 and had the rears reset an 1” lower. Rears were already and good quality 5 leaf. I don’t run high end shocks just KYB gas adjust. Ride and handling difference after the KFFL - 59 is chalk and cheese even though I still have pretzel sway bar.

Firm positive ride with far less float and improved steering. Best money I’ve spent on the car so far from a cruising enjoyment point of view.

jlewis · « **Reply #41 on:** February 17, 2018, 02:24:50 pm »

UPDATE:

I decided to go with KFFL59's, and Koni Classic adjustables. I finally finished one side this morning, dropped the vehicle back down, and I've gained 10mm. It might be enough, and I'm hoping that I don't lose a couple of mm's when I do the other side. I've bounced it (not excessively), and I've got no rub. To what extent should I test this? I might not be thinking clearly about this but besides coming out of a steep driveway am I going to encounter a scenario where I'll have my wheel turned and a lot of weight on the front of the vehicle (besides any Dukes of Hazzard moments)?

I really want to make sure there will zero rub before I go back to the paint shop to get the paint repaired (again).

Thanks.

Jeremy.

shaunp · « **Reply #42 on:** February 17, 2018, 04:35:33 pm »

Wise choice on the shocks, get an alignment and make sure it has some neg camber as well. are the arch lips rolled?

67FBGT · « **Reply #43 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:17:34 pm »

So if I'm understanding the above feedback, the KFFL59s lower a stock Mustang by about an inch?
There is also mention of the KFFL0 which I'd thought from posts in the past was the spring of choice, now it's the KFFL59?

shaunp · « **Reply #44 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:42:43 pm »

59's for 65-66
0 for 67 on

jlewis · « **Reply #45 on:** February 18, 2018, 07:55:35 am »

Shaun,

Lips are definitely rolled. In fact my paint guy reckons that the paint wouldn't have cracked if the the arches weren't lead wiped. Total measurement from ground to lip now is 610mm. Actually in saying that now I think I've only picked up 5mm not 10mm.

289 vert · « **Reply #46 on:** February 18, 2018, 10:00:27 am »

If you relocate the spring perch. you'll gain about 1/2" in height. As well as getting a better motion ratio. It will increase the spring rate though.

birdman · « **Reply #47 on:** February 18, 2018, 04:27:43 pm »

Quote from: 67FBGT on February 17, 2018, 10:17:34 pm

So if I'm understanding the above feedback, the KFFL59s lower a stock Mustang by about an inch?
There is also mention of the KFFL0 which I'd thought from posts in the past was the spring of choice, now it's the KFFL59?

Well i fitted KFFL59's stating 30mm drop but it only dropped 20mm, i'm guessing due to the sag in the 50yr old springs. So every car will be slightly different.

shaunp · « **Reply #48 on:** February 18, 2018, 04:27:53 pm »

Quote from: jlewis on February 18, 2018, 07:55:35 am

Shaun,

Lips are definitely rolled. In fact my paint guy reckons that the paint wouldn't have cracked if the the arches weren't lead wiped. Total measurement from ground to lip now is 610mm. Actually in saying that now I think I've only picked up 5mm not 10mm.

You can pack the top of the springs to the tower if needs be, you can buy urethane spacers.

birdman · « **Reply #49 on:** February 18, 2018, 04:32:58 pm »

Quote from: shaunp on February 18, 2018, 04:27:53 pm

You can pack the top of the springs to the tower if needs be, you can buy urethane spacers.

Maybe hasn't got any spacers fitted at all, and maybe no rubber mounts on spring perch either.
PS you mentioned 225/60/15, that's around 650mm/25.63inches so your guard is still over the tyre if it measures 610mm

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