289 Windsor issues

[shaunp]

Hasn't lost any water has it?

[shelby_mustro]

Not that I know although the water that did come out of the radiator was quite dirty.

It's funny a few weeks ago when I took the cap off there was this red merky stuff floating on top almost looked like blood, Can't be the box it's not hooked up to the radiator.

[GLENN 70]

Now ryan no cutting your wrists over this we dont want any more  blood in the radiator 

[shelby_mustro]

Haha mate it's killing me what the F it is!!! I know I have a compression tester but can't find it. I'm dieing to know if I have a dead duck in my car or not.

[ronin1]

Mate I'm experiencing something that sounds very similar. I'd been chasing a small water leak causing white smoke, but I digress. I'd removed cylinder heads and had to readjust valve lash, now I have done this without a degree wheel or a piston stop, thus I think my valve timing is off. The symptoms I'm experiencing sound very similar to yours buddy.

[boss 427]

Shaun i will do a comp test tomorrow ,heads left on engine ,gone to heavy springs ,a 302 cam  firing order is right .He had it running and drove it around the block ,parked it now wont start .

Glen
Is the firing order right for the cam. Remember there are 2 different cam firing orders.

[GLENN 70]

Was all fixed last week ,i went over and got it going fine ,but now has broken a rocker stud . And yes i know about the firing orders .

[GLENN 70]

ronin 1 ,you only took the heads off right ,so the timing has not moved unless you moved the dissy or took it out ,so it will be fine .You dont need to bring the piston up to top on number 1 unless you took the dissy out also .You may not have reset the rockers correctly and maybe to tight . More info needed to what you did thanks and how .

[shaunp]

Mate I'm experiencing something that sounds very similar. I'd been chasing a small water leak causing white smoke, but I digress. I'd removed cylinder heads and had to readjust valve lash, now I have done this without a degree wheel or a piston stop, thus I think my valve timing is off. The symptoms I'm experiencing sound very similar to yours buddy.

Have not got the distributor in the correct spot or the lash on the valves is wrong ie you have no lash and the valves are riding& leaking. It has nothing to do with valve timing if you didn't remove the cam or chain. You only need a piston stop and degree wheel if you want to dial in a new cam, to either check it was ground correctly, or you want to set it differently to what the manufacturer recommends, ie advancing the cam will bring the power lower in the RPM band, retarding it moves the power higher up.

[shaunp]

Also if you didn't find the water leak, and the car is an auto, check the modulator on the box, they fail and the engine sucks up auto fluid

[wsa51]

Guys I would suspect a broken timing chain, Just check see if you have any compression first.

[P8TRIOT]

Not sure as i havnt got to this stage yet with my car but my old falcons had a condenser for the distributor,if this $2 part was cactus they wouldnt start or run crap.

[GLENN 70]

ronin 1 ,will it start ,if not check for spark ,then check if its getting fuel ,take dissy cap off wind over engine and make sure rotor button is turning . If it has points bring dissy cam to high point and set ,and yes maybe a new condenser and points are a good start . Give us more info .

[ronin1]

Hey Glenn70,
Starts, and runs, upon application of throttle engine hesitates and stumbles.
Have a MSD ready-to-run distributor.
I reset timing and set a 6* BTDC, she's idling great, but in gear get a mean viberation / shake.
Im leaning toward valves too tight.

Shaun P: I utilised the degree wheel to make sure that I was only turning the engine the correct 1/4 turn each time to set the valve lash, as my balancer lacks any markings, other than the factory one's.

Sorry if this is a high jack, thought it sounded similar to my issue.

[GLENN 70]

Advance the timing up ,are you sure there are no timing marks on the balancer ,factory markings 0 10 20 30 40 .if they are there they might have paint over them .Put a white mark on around 32/34 ,then with vacuum advance hose off dissy and blocked ,check timing at around 2500 rpm and you want the timing mark of that 32/34 to line up .Dont worry what its at idle too much, but check and if its under 12 deg and it starts ok then good .6 deg maybe to low, higher is much better as long as it doesnt ping and it turns over when hot and your total timing is 32 up to 34 max .Your dissy may have to be set up ,10deg idle then 22 in the dissy total 32 deg.Whats the rest of the engine combo ,carby/cam etc .

[evan]

Starts, and runs, upon application of throttle engine hesitates and stumbles.
Have a MSD ready-to-run distributor.
I reset timing and set a 6* BTDC, she's idling great, but in gear get a mean viberation / shake.
Im leaning toward valves too tight.

I'd check for vacuum leaks. If the rockers are too tight, I wouldn't expect it to idle smoothly.

Evan.