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Offline FPVF6

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« on: June 10, 2012, 09:53:09 pm »
Hi guys what are your thoughts on the's cars
to do a  GT500E
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http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=12330983&YearFromShort=1630&__Qpb=1&Cr=10&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&YearToShort=1661&__N=834 1216 1246 1247 1252 1282 4294966191 4294966463 1630 1661&SearchAction=N&silo=1011&__No=45&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=263&__sid=137D817130BD

http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=12442464&YearFromShort=1630&__Qpb=1&Cr=11&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&YearToShort=1661&__N=834 1216 1246 1247 1252 1282 4294966191 4294966463 1630 1661&SearchAction=N&silo=1011&__No=60&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=263&__sid=137D817130BD

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Offline GLENN 70

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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 10:05:46 am »
Boy i dont know ,the green 68 ,well it is a J code which replaced the A code so that is something ,but it has a 351 now so what are you intending to do with your project put to stock or moded . If you were to make it totally std  matching numbers it could be worth up to 60k to 65 k ,not 70 or 80 . The other one well the price is ok .

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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 10:25:09 am »
I want to build a gt500e like my profile photo. Long term project tho
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2012, 12:05:36 pm »
If you are just going to make an E car I wouldn't buy anything too flash cause you are going to cover it in fibreglass anway, just buy a rough one without too much rust.

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2012, 12:51:18 pm »
Where can I find 1 ? Lol
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 03:10:01 pm »
I would have a closer look at the J code. It depends how far you want to go with the project as far as choosing a good starting point. If you just want a good driver that looks like an Eleanor then that car would suit if it is as described. It needs paint anyway, so fit the kit, paint it & away you go.

If you want to go nuts & do a nut & bolt build, then buy whatever you can that isnt rusty. Either way plan on spending some serious coin by the time its on the road.

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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 03:38:46 pm »
I no . If I had the coin up front I would get your shell lol. But really need to get to Sydney n have a chat with in person about building a gt500e . I want to do a full rebuild . But finding the shell is the hard part.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2012, 04:57:18 pm »
Wonder what the cost would be to convert a good rust free coupe, you can buy all the bits now. You could likly get a rust free coupe for less than 10K, what do you reckon Steve?

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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2012, 08:21:22 pm »
I still think the J code ,it looks complete ,a 351 motor ,gear box ,and a J code will have or should have a power booster ,front disc brakes ,a 9 inch diff and maybe a fold down rear seat if it is a GT  ,J code ,ask the seller for more info . But not at 30k .

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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2012, 08:27:54 pm »
Yeah Shaun, it could be a good way to do it. Originality doesnt matter on an E car so who really cares what the 4th & 5th digit of the vin are. I would still be looking for a good quality complete driver. If it was a well priced coupe allow about 15k to turn it into a fastback. Then whatever you want to spend on throwing E bits at it & paint etc. If it already has good mechanicals, electrics & trim then it saves getting too involved in any of those bits to keep costs down.

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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2012, 09:25:08 pm »
Yer the back seats fold down.  So Steve u think the j code would be good? Bit over priced what would u guys pay for 1
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2012, 09:39:44 pm »
My guess is would be 15 usa ,20 aust landed so 25,000 ,the guy will want to make some dollars .So i say 25k ,but see what others say .I had a look again and its not a GT ,but did have a fold down rear seat ,find out what trans it has and diff .If you buy something not running or complete you can end up chasing your tail with lost and missing parts .

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2012, 04:13:25 pm »
Here you go FPV. I have seen this car in the flesh & it is a good solid thing. All the parts have been bagged & tagged. It may suit what you are after. You will need running gear though, still cheaper than fixing a rusty heap of shit.

http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/viewthread.php?tid=18250

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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2012, 04:31:16 pm »
Quote from: GLENN 70 link=topic=18235.msg182067#msg182067
a J code will have or should have a power booster ,front disc brakes ,a 9 inch diff and maybe a fold down rear seat if it is a GT  , .


Glenn - not all 68  J codes came out with power boosted front disc brakes ......mine had drums all around.


But thanks to Shaunp"s assistance ....it now stops on a 10 cent piece.

J Code = 302

? same with the diff .....I'm thinking they were all an upgrade option.

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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2012, 05:51:42 pm »
Yes i know not all J codes come with power disc brakes ,J code only means 302 and late 68 .I ment if it was a J code GT ,then it would have the brakes and a 9 inch diff . At the time i did not look to hard at the photos .

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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2012, 06:10:12 pm »
Yep I'm talking to Bas ATM . But now it makes it better that u have gave your seal of approval thanks
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2012, 08:40:35 pm »
Quote from: GLENN 70 link=topic=18235.msg182132#msg182132
Yes i know not all J codes come with power disc brakes ,J code only means 302 and late 68 .I ment if it was a J code GT ,then it would have the brakes and a 9 inch diff . At the time i did not look to hard at the photos .

Not sure what they had, I think Happy's vert is a GTA, J code think it just has the body trim and bigger front sway bar. Think you had to buy a 390 to get a 9" maybe. We put some XB brakes on it.

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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2012, 09:03:24 pm »
As far as i know all J code GTs had power disc brakes and a 9 inch ,etc,etc . They were the lead up to the 351w 69 mach 1 which had 9 inch diffs but i have seen a couple without power disc brakes now that is strange .ps i have owned 2 68 GTs J codes both had those parts std . But who knows i have seen strange things in some mustangs even thow i have had 18 mustangs and nothing oddball with any .

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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2012, 09:23:54 pm »
Only Mr Marti Knows I suspect Glen. I think prior to 351s you may have to tick the right boxes on the order form, perhaps, My 67 is not a GT, but it was an A code with deluxe trim A/C , tinted glass lotts of other options but no discs, and an open 3.00:1, 8". I don't really care I just chnage them to suit.
 E cars are not my cup of tea, I think it's kind of a waste to use a good original fastback  to build one  personally.
better use a rough car that's not toooo rusty. I hacked up lotts of cars when younger, wouldn't do it now, time has shown me that a stock "looking" car is always worth more long term, the older they get. Go the sleeper look is the go, hide the good stuff under the lid.

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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2012, 09:39:17 pm »
Your one smart guy,we are on the same page we will have to meet up sometime ,at munchies ,car shows ,swap meets .To bad your not down the coast my 70 mach 1 351w 7/8 cyl is driving me nuts  cannot find the problem .:violin:

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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2012, 10:18:31 pm »
It's not just some thing silly like cross firing on the leads is it. Do you know which one it is, cyl wise ?. you could maybe track it, if you don't know. Just do it like a jet check on the plugs. Hold it on the mis at revs on the street and just shut it down, push the clutch in and coast to the side of the road, pull the plugs and have a look at them, maybe able to tell which it is assuming it is just one. Don't be tricked by "I ve already replaced that piece either" It's real easy to instal a new crook part.  I looked at a V12 HE XJS once, that everyone had played with, it had new ECUs etc.ect. Fault was the first guy fitted plugs for a Pre HE engine, which are short reach, HE's have different heads and different plugs, so it would idle, run at lite throttle but fall over if you got on it. Thing is it takes a few hours to change the plugs on a HE engine due to the head design, everyone knew they were new, so no one pulled them out to checked them. Not saying it's your plugs in this case, but you know what I'm getting at. If you can find that it is just one cylinder, I'd then go from there, could even be a weak valve spring, I've seen that on ski boat engines which can often get buzzed too high, once you float the valves the springs are toast, quite often. Only takes one weak one to drop a cylinder at high revs, just float a valve at lower revs.

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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2012, 10:57:55 pm »
everything is new ,done everything twice ,checked springs ,comp test ,inlet off ,different carby ,you name it i have done it ,next is dissy,i am engine wise but this one has me going .even though the dissy is new it is still a points one ,will change that soon .its a stock engine execpt 650 DP  and RPM intake . a stocko thats whats wrong .